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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w134sm464727yww.41.2019.06.27.05.01.46 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 27 Jun 2019 05:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45ZJQx6GCFz3Cgx for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:01:34 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've got a major question... Message-ID: <20190627080134.000012d6@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20190627113712.8a8ffbb238f478b08514cf72@sohara.org> References: <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> <20190627103701.7ea401b8@archlinux> <20190627110340.d0d87cfe.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627113712.8a8ffbb238f478b08514cf72@sohara.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/1qW2sh_ixGRmZ_+xpWvY6Sm"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9A6ED83183 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=rD71WY3A; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.58 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.926,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.04)[ip: (-9.66), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.14), asn: 15169(-2.34), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.b.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 12:01:50 -0000 --Sig_/1qW2sh_ixGRmZ_+xpWvY6Sm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:37:12 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith stated: >On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:03:40 +0200 >Polytropon wrote: > >> This is especially true when you need software for a special >> purpose. Maybe I would call them "niche software", but it is >> actually in heavy use, like accounting, payroll, time-work >> management, or ticketing systems. =20 > > Many many years ago the approach to choosing a computer system > went >like this: > >1: Establish your requirements >2: Find or commission software that best supports your requirements >3: Select a platform that runs the software you selected >4: Iterate round 2 and 3 to optimise cost/benefit > > These days the common approach seems to be: > >1: Select platform by default >2: Accept software on offer >3: Adjust requirements and procedures to suit software >4: Bitch when you find yourself locked in I agree with all except #3 in the second set. sed 's/software/operating system/' #4 is right on no matter what system you are utilizing. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/1qW2sh_ixGRmZ_+xpWvY6Sm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl0UsB8ACgkQOHMGOIfe xWRIDggAqjMIS0gDILo6CPUnL93lW4nw600TgD2t5+UD1oqEHZaO6aHJfTCnxiGx WC59ZD51tjBiYW0bwl1FWfo4kSjCeS9TqxHYUYRrif7FhWVLnqym07HSh4uIuLTY 9xL6jO6uZhFlypnv5ZVMTUM+nsglMe/KbX11uTT1p5iEIVbRje1PJNSoxkJtdAFk nPQgl10anbxNz81Ur7KCGbAyM6xmcsq5WL2WkP9nx28VmuvVNDUD0MgX6W+M1U/O kycl2MjF7ahYcbHkenOeURwNjGT4OOpCC/gw0S86UMWtJf4X05KCi/qCmYRHKwrA yTZh402piCzVKK2b36InSFCIErJTJQ== =5xCA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/1qW2sh_ixGRmZ_+xpWvY6Sm--