From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 13 16: 5:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BE937B43A; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0084.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.84] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16b9OA-0004NC-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:04:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3C6AFF0C.60640DBC@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:04:28 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Alfred Perlstein , Adrian Filipi-Martin , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AWK/perl hacker needed to assist the Sparc64 port References: <20020212.114355.20239712.imp@village.org> <20020212172042.R2668-100000@lorax.ubergeeks.com> <20020212143321.D5014@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020212164449.R63886@elvis.mu.org> <20020213080134.A5966@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 04:44:49PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > IS IT IN THE LEAST BIT POSSIBLE TO STAY ON TOPIC ON FREEBSD LISTS > > > ANYMORE??? And we wonder why so many do not bother with them any more. > > > > Please refrain from acting like a turd towards someone doing a bit > > of advocacy as well as offering some real world advice to us about > > something we may be considering. > > Please refrain from hijacking a thread in which I am trying to accomplish > a single, quick goal. > > You are more than free to start a *new* tread (w/new subject) to accomplish > your advocacy. If I got the gest of your emails in this thread, you are > considering replacing /bin/sh. Alfred that has come up multiple times > ever year since I can remember. It is one of our oldest bikesheads. Actually, your more correct subject should have been: "SPARC64: vnode_if.[ch] help needed" When I started reading this thread, it semed to me that what you wanted was the perl code to run on the SPARC64. As far as bootstrapping, like I said, having generated the system calls code and checked it in for bootstrap purposes having been considered acceptable, I think doing the same for vnode_if.[ch] would be just as acceptable, and would solve your problem of bootstrapping when perl was not available on the bootstrap target. I think your argument actually boils down to removing external dependencies in the bootstrap process. OBHijack: Too bad this policy doesn't extend to gcc. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message