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Date:      Sat, 2 Oct 2021 12:04:05 +0200
From:      Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org>
To:        tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD mips support
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Le 28.09.2021 16:42, tech-lists a =E9crit :
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 08:46:29AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
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> >All mips. mips64 is in no better shape than mips32 these days.
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> OK. I understand.=20
>=20
> I tried a few years ago to get an edgerouter lite 3 working with
> freebsd but failed. I'm using openbsd on it now.
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> I think it might be all a bit chicken-and-egg wrt mips. There's a
> lot of mips64 hardware out there that's still working; the edgerouter is
> not especially old. I had to carefully search at the time to discover=20
> whether *any* bsd worked with this hardware *at all*.
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> ah well. OpenBSD is still BSD ;) and the last time I looked it was fully
> supported for this particular octeon mips64 device. (by that I mean
> binary upgrades btwn OS versions).=20

Hi,

MIPS arch is still present in education (e.g. Computer
Organization and Design 6th edition from 2020 is available in both MIPS
and RISC-V version) because it's easy to use it to describe things
(well, RISC-V could be used for the same purpose but hold habits...).
As you said many 3-4 years old routers, Wi-Fi AP, etc. uses MIPS
hardware.  Loongson still provides MIPS64 based hardware (with some
changes).
So it's a shame FreeBSD stops MIPS support, but if it's in bad shape and
no one has the energy and time to fix it, it's difficult to raise an
objection.

I also wonder if someone really use FreeBSD on MIPS hardware, each time
I had to use an OS on this hardware family, I used Linux (Openwrt for
example).

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Marc

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