From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Nov 7 12:54: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31F937B401; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [66.127.85.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F6C43E4A; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from melange (melange.errno.com [66.127.85.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.12.5/8.12.1) with ESMTP id gA7Krr1H064659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:53:55 -0800 (PST)?g (envelope-from sam@errno.com)œ X-Authentication-Warning: ebb.errno.com: Host melange.errno.com [66.127.85.82] claimed to be melange Message-ID: <031401c2869f$db71b720$52557f42@errno.com> From: "Sam Leffler" To: "Julian Elischer" , Cc: "Long, Scott" , , "Murray Stokely" References: Subject: Re: Bluetooth code Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:54:24 -0800 Organization: Errno Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I made a quick pass over this code. It's not clear to me why this stuff is or should be dependent on netgraph. The code looks to support a new protocol domain and sockets within that domain so it would seem possible for it to stand apart from netgraph. A bluetooth implementation that was not tied to netgraph would be preferrable as freebsd users would get the benefits of additional (non-freebsd users) working with the code. Specific stuff: 1. Why isn't btsockstat integrated into netstat? 2. l2test, hcdump, and hcinfo are missing (cited in man pages). 3. A bluetooth(4) man page would be useful. It's unclear to me how this support is used. There are no user-level applications that make use of it and I don't recognize existing applications that could use it. I suggest that w/o a "real user" adding this stuff to the system is premature. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message