From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 11:46:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661B916A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5B143D2D for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:46:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2FJkjjn090625; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:46:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Peter Schultz From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:21:04 CST." <40560220.4010709@bis.midco.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:46:45 +0100 Message-ID: <90624.1079380005@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Colin Percival Subject: Re: $$$$ [was: Re: To the Armchair Directors] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:46:52 -0000 In message <40560220.4010709@bis.midco.net>, Peter Schultz writes: >I think it would be cool if the project as a whole were pushier about >getting people to pony up some dough. Has there ever been a push for >cash? In the past we (and I in particular) have been rather alergic to the very concept, but I must admit that I have not only changed my mind, but also plan to try my hand at it in the near future. The short version of this is that due to a contract change, I have the entire second half of 2004 uncommitted right now, so I decided to take a shot at rasing money to be able to do FreeBSD full time. Basically I need to raise USD5K every month to be able to afford a full time FreeBSD habit and I have decided to only do this if I can raise money for at least three months. I'm writing on a document which I intend to send to both the usual and some unusual suspects, (including the user-population in general). My hope is that I can find 10 companies who are willing to spend $500 a month. If it wasn't for banks being greedy bastards, 5000 users spending one dollar a month would be all we needed, but more realistically I think the minimum transaction will have to be at least $100. Since I am self-employed, and not in USA, donations will be made directly to my company which will issue receipt/invoice. That does not preclude the FreeBSD Foundation playing a role, but that is for their board to decide. My companys books will be open for inspection by the donors and should they desire it: the core team. If I manage to raise the funds for this, I plan to work on exactly the same code as I would otherwise[*], but working on it full time will make it arrive a lot sooner than it otherwise would and I will likely also have time to attend to a lot of the smaller things that get dropped due to time pressure right now. I don't know if FreeBSD is ready for full time community supported hackers but I intend to find out... Any help, leads and donations are of course most welcome! Poul-Henning [*] Mainly getting Giant out of the device, file and disk I/O path. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.