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Date:      Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:53:21 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "User Rdkeys Robert D. Keys" <rdkeys@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu>
To:        shovey@buffnet.net (Steve Hovey)
Cc:        rdkeys@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (User RDKEYS Robert D. Keys), questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 8" Floppy drive?
Message-ID:  <199709161753.NAA22200@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970916122927.501F-100000@buffnet11.buffnet.net> from Steve Hovey at "Sep 16, 97 12:29:44 pm"

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> How important could data that old and long unseen be?
> 
> On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, David Kelly wrote:
> 
> > At the very least this should be good for a laugh, but the boss dug up
> > about 50 8" floppies and wants the data off of them and onto modern
> > media. From way back, I recal the 1.2M floppy hardware interface wasn't
> > terribly different from the 8". Where both 8" and 1.2M disks turn
> > 360 RPM vs 300 RPM for 360k disks. Maybe there is a chance an 8" drive
> > can be attached to my FreeBSD system?

Actually, sometimes rather important.  I have a similar case where about
10 years of weather and plant quality data (peanut/soybean/etc), are on
5 and 8 inch cpm floppies (cpm equipment was used as dataloggers from about
1979-1987 because they worked, were cheap, etc.), and to build some long
range models of this data over 10/20 year periods, that data has turned
out to be rather important.  Also, the only extant commented disassembler
source to CP/M was found among those disks (taken off the internet in 1981,
originally downloaded on 8 level paper tape, then transferred to 81K floppy!).
That now resides on the CP/M web pages, rather then being lost forever.

Granted the data may not be important to some, or many folks, but it still can
be worthwhile.  It can be a bear to get from cpm to dos to unix, and it really
would be nice if unix could read them directly (i.e., 8 inch floppies).  My
working solution is to transfer the 8 inch data to AT HD clone 8 inch floppies,
and work that via kermit into workstations for long-term archival.  Much of
the collective learned wisdom of that era is gone (most of the new kids on 
the block have never heard of CP/M or the like and may were only just born
in its heyday.....tells us how old us old pfartes are....(:+}}....).

Maybe his boss's data is important manuscripts or legal documentation or
credit data or whatever..... who knows, but the application of data transfer
from old systems such as CP/M and DOS to unix (our pet unix like FreeBSD)
is an entirely valid application.  I draws a few chuckles, though.....(:+}}.

Bob Keys
rdkeys@seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu





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