Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 10:39:03 -0800 From: John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com> To: gene@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SUP on sup.freebsd.org Message-ID: <199611061839.KAA10633@austin.polstra.com> In-Reply-To: <199611061121.GAA20346@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> References: <55pm86$j7n@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> <199611061121.GAA20346@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu>
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In article <199611061121.GAA20346@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> gene@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu writes: > I can well sympathize with the need to do something about your network > load problems, but I just tried (unsuccessfully) to build CVSup and I have > the following *major* complaints, which I hope you will consider: > > (1) CVSup, being written in Modula3, requires the importation > of a *GIANT*, *BLOATED* language subsystem, which is not > currently a standard part of FreeBSD (nor should it be). Other people have already pointed out the availability of statically linked binary releases, so I won't beat that dead horse. As to the "*GIANT*, *BLOATED* language subsystem," you are out of date on that. The current CVSup package (the one from the packages collection, not the static binary release which is completely stand-alone) depends only on the "modula-3-lib" package, whose tarball is < 1 MB and which occupies 3.2 MB when fully installed. That is *slightly* larger than the static binary installation, which weighs in at 2.5 MB. However, I expect to update CVSup more frequently than the Modula-3 ports, so in the long run you'll be better off to install "modula-3-lib" and use the package version of CVSup. BTW, if you think 3.2 MB is still too giant and bloated, well, welcome to the 1980's, Bubba. ;-) > As it happens, I have a Modula3 already installed on some > systems we are using for educational purposes. However, > where I want to sup from is a server system that students > don't use, and I'm not thrilled about copying vast quantities > of shared libraries and other cruft yet to be determined > over to that system so that I can run this one Modula3 program > on the server. You have options. Use the static binary, use the package, or use CTM. > (2) CVSup will not compile (at least not out of the box from > the ports/net/cvsup directory on FreeBSD 2.1.5, due to it > apparently wanting some "-lz" option from ld, which doesn't > seem to exist on the 2.1.5 ld. This effectively cuts off > anyone running 2.1.5/stable from tracking the FreeBSD source > tree and ports via sup. I brought "libz" into the -stable branch this morning. I also retroactively zapped it onto all existing 2.1.5 CDs. (Just kidding about that last part. :-) -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth
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