From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 05:14:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B424E37B401 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (mail2.secnetix.de [195.143.231.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2B943F85 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (pahevu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6RLbpgC023927; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:37:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h6RLbov2023926; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:37:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200307272137.h6RLbov2023926@lurza.secnetix.de> To: kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU (Ken Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:37:50 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20030727192724.GA10869@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> from "Ken Smith" at Jul 27, 2003 03:27:24 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirror Site Requirements - Final Draft? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:14:26 -0000 Hi, First of all, you're doing a great job, Ken. Thanks a bunch. Here are a few comments of mine on the latest draft. I am the maintainer of the FreeBSD mirror ftp7.de.freebsd.org, which is on of the more popular mirrors in Germany, because I always try to keep it as up-to-date as possible, especially during release times. Actually I would regard this mirror as a "primary" one, but it somewhat differs from your definition of a primary mirror site. Let me explain. First, it is a complete mirror, even with some additional "bonus features" (e.g. daily -stable and -current snapshots). We're carrying all platforms and all releases, even a few more (e.g. 3.5.1/i386 which isn't on the master anymore). Except for one detail: I have opted to omit a few things from the "branches" directory. In particular, I removed the extracted ports tree. It is just a waste of space, inodes and time, in my opinion. Second, I am not syncing the whole /pub/FreeBSD from the master every day. I think that would be a waste, too. I'm only syncing those parts regularly that change often, e.g. the distfiles, packages for -stable and -current, and similar things. Those things that come once and never change (e.g. releases) are mirrored manually, once they have been announced on the hubs@ list. Of course, I also watch out for "fixes" which cause a release to be re-rolled, so I have to sync again. That happened a few times in the past. I usually re-sync again a few days after the release, just to be sure, but after that, I never sync that release again. I usually start syncing a few minutes after the announcement has been made on the list, so the mirror is as up-to-date as it could possibly ever be. :-) Now tell me, Ken, would you disqualify ftp7.de.freebsd.org as a "primary" mirror? I'm curious ... :-) I think the important thing is _what_ stuff is on a mirror, not how it got there. And I think that ftp7.de is more up- to-date than certain mirror sites which strictly comply with your definition of a primary site. Just my 0.02 Euro. :-) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all." -- God in Futurama season 4 episode 8