From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 8 11:29:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BAF16A468 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: from smtp5.wlink.com.np (smtp5.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35A6613C4B2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 98877 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 10:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.76) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 10:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 65713 invoked by uid 98); 8 Nov 2007 10:55:38 -0000 Received: from 202.79.36.7 by smtp1.wlink.com.np (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/2205. Clear:RC:1(202.79.36.7):. 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Processed in 0.041157 secs) Received: from [202.79.36.7] (HELO [202.79.36.7]) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 08 Nov 2007 10:55:29 -0000 (Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:40:29 +0545) Message-ID: <4732EB18.7080908@wlink.com.np> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:40:20 +0545 From: Tek Bahadur Limbu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Schuh References: <1dbad3150708291826y5ed57502l5915aba62f71f62c@mail.gmail.com> <46D6F1CD.30805@ccstores.com> <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.2 / 8.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=0.2 required=8.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP Webfrontends for Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:29:38 -0000 Hi Michael, Michael Schuh wrote: > Hi @list, > > (i would answer to the list, not to the persons only) > > First thanks for the suggestions. > > Now my personal opinions: > I like solutions that ar small, smart and easy to administrate/update. > Such as syscp. But syscp doesn't have all the functionality that i like. > dtc looks very good, but have tons of dependencies that are not really > needed. > raqdevil shold be a good solution if it get installed right, but it doesn't > in a jail. > > webin is overloaded, while the customer from me doesn't like a fully system > management, and in the last twelve years of my experiences with > linux/freebsd > i have many many boxes seen that have been cracked and misused as > mailgateways/streamingservers > or public ftpservers from crackers. because the updates from webin are not > all times > maked fast enough. > > qmail is good but for me it is a little bit to complex to handle, > i prefer combinations such as > named(bind9)/postfix/sa/dspam/cyrus-imap(also with murder-config) or courier > or dovecot for small > enviroments. for Databases i like to prefer postgresql before mysql and > apache or lightttpd. > > And that are the components that i have to manage over a single webfrontend. > So that at this moment syscp is the only one that can handle this and only > this, > not more and not less, but it lacks of support for sa/dspam. > ok dspam brings his own webfrontend but sa not and sa is very complex > to configure while it has tons of features......so i think about it to leave > it out from > the box and use only dspam..... > > the webfrontends for cyrus are not really good IMHO > > thanks for your suggestions It's been almost 70 days since you first posted question regarding "the ISP Webfrontends for Management". I am quite curious as to what solution you may have implemented? Among syscp/dtc/raqdevil, which one have you deployed or did you find a better solution? Thanking you... > > regards > > michael > > Michael Schuh wrote: >>> Hi @list, >>> >>> i search a good/reliable/stable possibility to manage >>> Domains/users/mailaccounts/webspace/servers etc. >>> per Http... >>> >>> I have searched throug google and the ports-tree and the only >>> two frontends that i have found are sysutils/syscp and www/raqdevil. >>> >>> syscp shows me very clear and a little bit poor but stable and mature >> enough >>> to use it. >>> >>> raqdevil is horridble to install clean and runnable in a jail, >>> and it uses originally code from SUN Microsystems Cobalt-Raq's, >>> so that it seems to me a little bit difficult to use it..... >>> >>> Can anyone point me to other frontends ( preferred supported through the >>> ports-tree), >>> and/or to an frontend to cfengine ( if it gave one)? >>> >>> Thanks for all >>> >>> regards >>> >>> michael >> -- With best regards and good wishes, Yours sincerely, Tek Bahadur Limbu System Administrator (TAG/TDG Group) Jwl Systems Department Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. Jawalakhel, Nepal http://www.wlink.com.np http://teklimbu.wordpress.com