From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Apr 23 22:23:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from HAL9000.wox.org (12-232-222-90.client.attbi.com [12.232.222.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB2337B41E; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.wox.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3O5NvU03926; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:23:57 -0700 From: David Schultz To: Terry Lambert Cc: Jochem Kossen , frank@exit.com, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Security through obscurity? (and /etc/defaults/rc.conf changes) Message-ID: <20020423222357.D3593@HAL9000.wox.org> Mail-Followup-To: Terry Lambert , Jochem Kossen , frank@exit.com, Greg 'groggy' Lehey , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200204231454.g3NEsxFR019646@realtime.exit.com> <200204231839.44923.j.kossen@home.nl> <3CC5A7DC.FD06DC11@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3CC5A7DC.FD06DC11@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 11:28:44AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Terry Lambert : > The entire idea of "bit rot" is really "the code did not keep > ``up to date'' with my changes, which broke the code", which > is really a ridiculous position. > > It really pissed me off when the AHA-1742 support dropped out > when CAM came in, but that, at least, was understandable, since > it was a trade: something deisrable for something less desirable > to the majority of users. > > You really *can not* blame breaking "something that used to work > but which no longer works" on "evolution". Aah...we'd better put uucp back in the base system, then. Never mind that it might have security problems that we don't know about. :P To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message