From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 20 23:41:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA03087 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA03079 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by nico.telstra.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA28488; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:39:23 +1000 Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id QAA02274; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:09:22 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970821160921.03779@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:09:21 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: Terry Lambert , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: ELF cutover (was :Re: [Fwd: Re: Please Help Me Understand dlopen()]) References: <19970821084227.64768@lemis.com> <199708210151.LAA00453@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199708210151.LAA00453@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Aug 21, 1997 at 11:20:35AM +0930 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Aug 21, 1997 at 11:20:35AM +0930, Mike Smith wrote: >> Of course, if somebody could show me (or make it plausible) that this >> would be possible without causing particular compatibility problems, >> I might change my mind. What I really don't understand is why a >> wholesale changeover should be necessary: I certainly hope that the >> new system will still be able to run a.out executables. > > You should spend some time reading back-issued of the hackers > digest. Right, I *should*. I'm running as fast as I can just to stay where I am. > Can you honestly imagine any such an idea gaining any sort of currency > without this basic criterion being met? No. Well, yes, but it would surprise me. > The entire idea with building mixed-flavour tools is to be able to avoid > a one-hit cutover; you should be able to work with a mixture of a.out > and ELF tools transparently. OK. That's just what I originally thought. But Jordan's message suggested that I should cut over in one swell foop. Greg