From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 10 9:13:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E6E151C7 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22334; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990910100243.047a0210@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:11:38 -0600 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" From: Brett Glass Subject: PRs for FreeBSD's meme complex Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.19990909213006.046fd350@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:31 AM 9/10/99 -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >People resort to calling you names because in the end its far less >stressful to throw insults at you than to try and hold a reasonable >conversation with you. When one raises serious but difficult questions, it naturally causes some stress. But the questions DO need to be addressed. Think of my messages as PRs for FreeBSD's "meme complex" -- that is, for advocacy, marketing, culture, and other aspects of FreeBSD that don't consist solely of code and documentation. >I think you'd find that more people would be interested in what you have >to say if you tried correcting the flaws in your communication skills, I think you're confusing the message with the messenger. I don't believe that my communications skills are flawed at all; written communication is one of the things I do for a living, and my work is generally well regarded. If you do not agree with some of the opinions I express, or feel uncomfortable discussing some of the topics I've brought up, it does not mean that there's anything wrong with the way I communicate. >especially those relating to conversation (you know, where more than 1 >person is talking). > >A review of the rules governing the varieties of formal debate might be >useful as well. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, mailing lists are not subject to rules of formal debate. Certainly, I've had many ad hominem remarks lobbed at me -- including the message to which this is a response -- which would be out of line in such a debate. >Nothing personal. Of course. ;-) --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message