From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 17 16:35:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674AF1065693 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from astrodog@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2219A8FC21 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywk9 with SMTP id 9so3202967ywk.13 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6jSIUmXES/SKxKHnRlejEjXiJc3ALG7v1kZJF6BZ+2k=; b=pBso+FR/A1wxmpVMT4lxQJVBDD5pH6kU0zFSrSTS1nvJgl56T+vp9fvgQT/tT5opCJ Z69s/K/gYovx+MQKonaMAALfyN+3nKWBAjH9YYKBYysNXm3bbfSl+Sn6ZXjR+k45ZKST dPj7mAVOhFb2OB/im/YEEz8Dw6L5ozwGIfYSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w6dpgV93YEC769ElRIrT+DUNpM0I+sifdvT2ynnBLAs6rW3KFq7+mxIGvD9yv4CSDK l9zSUjGsE1owMYkpeEBdnIK+1TCs5EU/LJqZhU+ioqImlnJSJpvYyeK6XySQdDy3FOdI x9lJKqpCK5f7u2GUN9JuZ9mk3NioLyIy96hY0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.33.18 with SMTP id g18mr7851469ang.68.1282062952305; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.199.15 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:35:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100817050128.GC13790@lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Astrodog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS will gone,FreeBSD will import btrfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:35:53 -0000 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Olivier Smedts wrote: > 2010/8/17 Mark Linimon : >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:21:07PM +0800, lhmwzy wrote: >>> opensolaris is gone >> >> It appears there will be a fork, but that's not particularly crucial >> to FreeBSD. >> >>> ZFS also gone. > > OpenSolaris is gone, Oracle won't make any OpenSolaris release but > they're still working on Solaris (and maybe ZFS). > > But did they close the sources too ? I mean, they have a VCS, can we > still access it and download the ZFS source files ? Did they also > relicense them ? > As for btrfs, don't forget it's GPL, and still not production-ready. > ZFS has a proven reliability, if Oracle drops it because they have > btrfs, I'll be very angry... > >> We're not going to drop ZFS because Oracle's plans are unclear. =A0It >> remains to be seen how much other community support there is behind ZFS. >> >>> Will FreeBSD import btrfs or other similar file system? >> >> >From my observation, it takes about 2 years from the initial work on a >> new filesystem until it's relatively stable, so I don't know why we woul= d >> suddenly decide to go that direction. >> >> mcl Assuming, for the moment, that there is no other support behind ZFS, I don't see why one would want to remove it from FreeBSD. It fills a useful gap, as far as filesystems on FreeBSD go, and if it came down to it, atleast for the foreseeable future, it would be worth supporting alone. It's not like anyone thinks FreeBSD should toss out UFS2, just because not many other OSes use it. The same holds true for DTrace. It's useful to have, Solaris or no Solaris. OpenSolaris dying shouldn't have a big impact on where FreeBSD goes with these tools, as long as they continue to be useful for the community and the developers, and aren't hampering development elsewhere.