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Date:      Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:49:15 -0400
From:      Richard Yao <ryao@cs.stonybrook.edu>
To:        Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Text relocations in kernel modules
Message-ID:  <4F79D88B.3040102@cs.stonybrook.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CAFHbX1KiZx68MP4bCAvPc0Zui3fA4O35_z3kP781zoJqLYp7Bw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04/02/12 05:56, Tom Evans wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Richard Yao <ryao@cs.stonybrook.edu> w=
rote:
>>> There are no security implications, no system resources to be wasted.=

>>>
>>> And if you think there are security implications, then lets see a
>>> proof-of-concept.
>>
>> If I find time to write a proof-of-concept, I promise to publish it
>> publicly. Your security team will find out when everyone else does.
>=20
> Richard, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. You have
> had a clear explanation of why certain things are done in a certain
> way in the FreeBSD codebase, and a confirmation that they do not think
> it causes any security issues in FreeBSD.
>=20
> Your response is to threaten to write an exploit against FreeBSD, and
> distribute it publicly before disclosing to security@.

Some people believe that projects that do not take proper
countermeasures against security vulnerabilities do not deserve to have
special notification of issues. I happen to be one of them.

> Are you trying to be an ass? Someone disagrees with you on the
> internet, so you throw all the toys out the pram?

I suggest that you look at things from my perspective. I asked a simple
question on your mailing list. I then received several private emails
from various FreeBSD developers insulting my intelligence for the act of
asking a question. Who is the "ass" here?


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