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Date:      Mon, 9 Oct 2023 16:44:09 +0100
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org>
To:        Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OCI image compatibility spec - FYI
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A while ago I drafted https://github.com/dfr/opencontainers-tob/tree/freebs=
d
but neither I nor Samuel Karp had enough time to take this forward. Since
then, we have resolved one of the trickier differences between the
podman/buildah port and containerd/nerdctl around network configuration and
I think this would be a good time to revive this proposal.

Doug.


On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 16:26, Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I have followed your work with great interest, though I have to admit
> that, because I am not a developer or DevOps practitioner, my understandi=
ng
> is incomplete.
>
> I am in 100% agreement with you that the PR I shared is less important
> than the runtime spec. I just wanted to bring it to the list's attention
> since the author has said he would welcome FreeBSD involvement and they
> plan a vote tomorrow.
>
> Several others, representing developers and end users, are also intereste=
d
> in helping with the runtime spec. I would love to connect them with you a=
nd
> see how we may be able to work together.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:19=E2=80=AFAM Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org> wrot=
e:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 13:51, Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have been trying to stay tuned in to all the efforts to get a native
>>> OCI runtime on FreeBSD. There are a lot of people interested in this an=
d
>>> several efforts underway.
>>>
>>> In the course of listening in on some of the OCI community developer
>>> calls, I learned about this effort to create image compatibility
>>> specification
>>>
>>> https://github.com/opencontainers/tob/pull/128
>>>
>>> I asked if they planned to include FreeBSD as a supported platform and
>>> they have been very open to the idea but they need FreeBSD developers t=
o
>>> express interest and get involved.
>>>
>>> If this interests you, you can jump into the PR or ping me and I'd be
>>> happy to connect with the engineers heading this up.
>>>
>>
>> I am very interested in the area of adding FreeBSD extensions to the OCI
>> specification(s). Your PR covers the image spec - I actually think that =
it
>> might be better to start trying to define a FreeBSD extension for the
>> runtime spec.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>>
>>>
>
> --
> Greg Wallace
> Director of Partnerships & Research
> M +1 919-247-3165
> Schedule a meeting <https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min>;
> Get your FreeBSD Gear <https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/>;
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">A while ago I drafted=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/d=
fr/opencontainers-tob/tree/freebsd">https://github.com/dfr/opencontainers-t=
ob/tree/freebsd</a> but neither I nor Samuel Karp had enough time to take t=
his forward. Since then, we have resolved one of the trickier differences b=
etween the podman/buildah port and containerd/nerdctl=C2=A0around network c=
onfiguration and I think this would be a good time to revive this proposal.=
<div><br></div><div>Doug.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 16:26, =
Greg Wallace &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greg@freebsdfoundation.org">greg@freebsd=
foundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:sol=
id;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi=
 Doug,<div><br></div><div>I have followed your work with great interest, th=
ough I have to admit that, because I am not a developer or DevOps practitio=
ner,=C2=A0my understanding is incomplete.</div><div><br></div><div>I am in =
100% agreement with you that the PR I shared is less important than the run=
time spec. I just wanted to bring it to the list&#39;s attention since the =
author has said he would welcome FreeBSD involvement and they plan a vote t=
omorrow.</div><div><br></div><div>Several others, representing developers a=
nd=C2=A0end users, are also interested in helping with the runtime spec. I =
would love to connect them with you and see how we may be able to=C2=A0work=
 together.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</=
div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:19=E2=80=AFAM D=
oug Rabson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dfr@rabson.org" target=3D"_blank">dfr@rabs=
on.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 13:51, Greg Wallace &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:greg@freebsdfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">greg@freeb=
sdfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:s=
olid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I have been trying to stay tuned in t=
o all the efforts to get a native OCI runtime on FreeBSD. There are a lot o=
f people interested in this and several efforts underway.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>In the course of listening in on some of the OCI community develope=
r calls, I learned about this effort=C2=A0to create image compatibility spe=
cification</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://github.com/openconta=
iners/tob/pull/128" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/opencontainers/tob=
/pull/128</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I asked if they planned to inclu=
de FreeBSD as a supported platform and they have been very open to the idea=
 but they need FreeBSD developers to express interest and get involved.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>If this interests you, you can jump into the PR or pi=
ng me and I&#39;d be happy to connect with the engineers heading this up.</=
div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am very interested in the area=
 of adding FreeBSD extensions to the OCI specification(s). Your PR covers t=
he image spec - I actually think that it might be better to start trying to=
 define a FreeBSD extension for the runtime spec.<div><br></div><div>Doug.<=
/div></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-l=
eft-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div></div></div></div=
>
</blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Greg Wallace</font><div><f=
ont face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Director of Partnerships &amp; Research</fo=
nt></div><div><div><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif"><img width=3D"96" heig=
ht=3D"51" src=3D"https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wjP1JywV5=
1T1uncasRi5dh2tUFJeZix_vPxSVpOhkm2zu1JmXD4jfm2U5IKBxTuPyUCfKI10o"></font></=
div></div><div><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">M +1 919-247-3165<br></fon=
t></div><div><a href=3D"https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min" targe=
t=3D"_blank"><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Schedule a meeting</font></a=
></div><div><a href=3D"https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/" target=3D=
"_blank">Get your FreeBSD Gear</a></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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