From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 4 02:56:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18E910663CB for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 02:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831F68FC5A for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 02:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1252615eyi.7 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:56:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jyO1LFlC6z20kdz1yZSETJGE6RI2qYw/kULZ4jwfF7k=; b=vQtBTsSA+MOnBeJea0pnc0IIpEFXEsoQypeyzvsCEaJBsv48eSzC4vj9C5ACUDdSs6 9sU0MUgTDuLZqoie7S2YfEPEsa602uF4cox3X5CqlQ0l090FVLf+OWbfPSTRugpApRTH 9O5JTx6wlvesE+89hBXUoNR70dioc8EvUAxRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=gpkevD9pUYovr9NYXHtyBPdkEdaEODiZXgfzlcLrBjX0GDbrKSekEAkdsCTVUHz3A+ iTmKKrLUdEu42ydwDoBrnwn4z12k2/3EwkMi7WsQgZCofNEI8FuwFuqhchTuaMgObufB j8cBGcZcLj2CkZjbY+onSqdRKbKkSLiEkr9Rk= Received: by 10.210.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr11117890ebw.41.1220495125385; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.53.15 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:25:25 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Dan Allen" In-Reply-To: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:56:20 -0000 Google for freesbie, or perhaps PC-BSD On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dan Allen wrote: > BACKGROUND: > > A few years ago one could get a FreeBSD CD and install X and get a decent > basic system from one CD. > > One can still do this with Ubuntu today as well. > > Why can't we have a small window manager like icewm along with Firefox 3.0+ > be among the packages on the first FreeBSD CD so a basic working system with > a web browser can be a default install? Is it that X.org is now too big? > > I have been a FreeBSD user/builder for more than a decade because of > /usr/src/make - complete sources and a beautiful build system, but I must > admit that Ubuntu has done a great job of modern hardware detection and > providing a nice useable system out of the box. I wish we could join both > worlds in a future BSD release. (I crashed Ubuntu 8.04 in the first day so > I still prefer BSD to Linux.) > > Also, and I am sure I am not the only one with one of these, my new $500 > Dell Inspiron 1525 is not supported well by BSD RELENG_7: the Intel 4965 > wireless and the Marvell 88E80xx Ethernet are both NOT supported so I have a > great new laptop which cannot connect to the outside world with BSD. :-( > Ubuntu supports these and lots more. > > SUMMARY: > > I would like to see FreeBSD 7.1 add to its disc1: > > 1) X.org > 2) icewm > 3) firefox-3.0 > 4) support for Intel 4965 wireless drivers > 5) support for Marvell 88E8040 ethernet driver > > Dan Allen > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >