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Date:      Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:25:25 -0700
From:      "Kurt Buff" <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
To:        "Dan Allen" <danallen46@airwired.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content
Message-ID:  <a9f4a3860809031925p71b540dbha21b870336c8a8a0@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net>
References:  <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net>

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Google for freesbie, or perhaps PC-BSD

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net> wrote:
> BACKGROUND:
>
> A few years ago one could get a FreeBSD CD and install X and get a decent
> basic system from one CD.
>
> One can still do this with Ubuntu today as well.
>
> Why can't we have a small window manager like icewm along with Firefox 3.0+
> be among the packages on the first FreeBSD CD so a basic working system with
> a web browser can be a default install?  Is it that X.org is now too big?
>
> I have been a FreeBSD user/builder for more than a decade because of
> /usr/src/make - complete sources and a beautiful build system, but I must
> admit that Ubuntu has done a great job of modern hardware detection and
> providing a nice useable system out of the box.  I wish we could join both
> worlds in a future BSD release.  (I crashed Ubuntu 8.04 in the first day so
> I still prefer BSD to Linux.)
>
> Also, and I am sure I am not the only one with one of these, my new $500
> Dell Inspiron 1525 is not supported well by BSD RELENG_7: the Intel 4965
> wireless and the Marvell 88E80xx Ethernet are both NOT supported so I have a
> great new laptop which cannot connect to the outside world with BSD.  :-(
>  Ubuntu supports these and lots more.
>
> SUMMARY:
>
> I would like to see FreeBSD 7.1 add to its disc1:
>
> 1) X.org
> 2) icewm
> 3) firefox-3.0
> 4) support for Intel 4965 wireless drivers
> 5) support for Marvell 88E8040 ethernet driver
>
> Dan Allen
>
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