From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 14 13:02:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CD416A504; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from fw.zoral.com.ua (fw.zoral.com.ua [213.186.206.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCF443D72; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by fw.zoral.com.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7ED2GaJ048693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:02:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7ED2GlV030667; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:02:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k7ED2GYg030666; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:02:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:02:16 +0300 From: Kostik Belousov To: Dmitry Pryanishnikov Message-ID: <20060814130216.GM25753@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <200608141221.k7ECLwHq069066@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060814124528.GB28932@nagual.pp.ru> <20060814154640.R28464@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/t6ASE28jIy1gGy9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060814154640.R28464@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on fw.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on fw.zoral.com.ua Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , src-committers@freebsd.org, Andrey Chernov , cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:02:52 -0000 --/t6ASE28jIy1gGy9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 03:52:52PM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: >=20 > Hello! >=20 > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >> - Touch /usr/share/tmac/man.local if it already exists. > > > >It is definitely bad habbit touching the files to marking them not > >obsoleted. Many developers including me use 'INSTALL =3D install -C' whi= ch > >not touch files when not needed, so we have correct date of the actual > >last file change. With that your touching those files will falsely looks > >updated. Please back it out. >=20 > Note that this commit does _not_ touch the file. As I've shown in my=20 > previous letter, ':>>$file' will _not_ change file's modification time. > Maybe, we should avoid spelling ':>>' as a 'touch' in the commit log > to prevent such a confusion? BTW, knowing that ':>>$file' doesn't change > modification time, I'm really curiuos what this ".else / :>> / .endif"=20 > really > does? Isn't this a plain NOOP?! It just opens file for write. Assuming /tmp/1 exists, watch yourself with truss sh -c ':>>/tmp/1'. On the other hand, touch uses utimes(2) to change file access and modification times. --/t6ASE28jIy1gGy9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE4HRXC3+MBN1Mb4gRAvG8AKCXqMn4iayrJv5eTgUIISsEFWY2uwCg2uSM k76MEclP3U2lf5FTiTeQnlM= =DvMt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/t6ASE28jIy1gGy9--