From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 26 09:07:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E9716A4CF for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out8.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (out8.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.3.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5F843D46 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:07:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robc@execpc.com) Received: from mail0.mx.voyager.net (mail0.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.205]) by out8.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2724C4181A; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:07:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (nm5.mx.lnng.mi.voyager.net [216.93.38.231]) by mail0.mx.voyager.net (8.12.9/8.10.2) with ESMTP id hBQH74rv030880; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:07:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200312261707.hBQH74rv030880@mail0.mx.voyager.net> From: "rob copsey" To: Trish X-Mailer: CoreCommMail X-IPAddress: 67.52.12.10 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:07:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[4]: Invalid Partion - help on setting up loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:07:13 -0000 Trish, I don't really know what this list is for and I'm not trying to be a goody two shoes. Perhaps this list is much like a newbie in and of itself. A newbie that is looking for a place to fit in and be useful? In a strange bit of irony, Maybe we are using the list for one its intended purposes in this thread; exploring the purpose of something. I dunno, RC > Hi Rob, my post was in no way intended to denigrate the worthy efforts > of those who have gone before. It just seems that any technical > question has a response of read the manual and post elsewhere..so it > was simply a tongue in cheek way of asking..what CAN you do here? :) > > Regards, > > Trish > > Friday, December 26, 2003, 10:55:23 AM, you wrote: > > rc> Hi, Trish; > > rc> This is a good question, and one that I've pondered too. > > rc> I think the people who developed the charter for this list > > rc> had premonitions of it becoming the "cliff notes" version > > rc> of the handbook for those who would intend to bypass the learning > > rc> process. So, in fairness to those who worked so hard preparing > > rc> the handbook and others who donate their time writing articles > > rc> and how-tos; this list isn't just a quick overview/summary. > > > rc> Put yourself in the shoes of those before us who have taken > > rc> the initiative to give us such awesome resources at a click > > rc> of the mouse, would it give them a sense of fulfillment to > > rc> know that newbies were too lazy to read through the work? > > > rc> All I'm saying is that as new members of this community we > > rc> should not burden the gurus with our day to day questions. > > rc> We should exhaust every possible resource before posing a > > rc> question. When we must pose a question, it should be well > > rc> written and concise; it should show that we've at least > > rc> taken every measure to solve the problem/issue prior to > > rc> seeking assistance. > > rc> Best Regards, > rc> Rob > > >> Okay...I've been toying with this question for quite some time...ever > >> since I over-optimistically subscribed to this newsgroup as a way of > >> mentally preparing myself to do an install of freeBSD. > >> > >> Every time a person posts a how-to question in this group...they get > >> directed elsewhere. Just what IS this group for? Seems to be that > >> all you're allowed to do here is post such things as: > >> > >> "Hey...you're a newbie? I'M a newbie too!!!" > >> > >> "You're having a tough time with freeBSD? Hey...me too! But...I'll > >> have to meet you in the OTHER newsgroup to tell you what KIND of hard > >> time...." > >> > >> I've seen many people redirected, graciously, to the handbook (thank > >> GOD there's a handbook...) and the "other" newsgroup. Wouldn't it be > >> quicker to simply say that the freebsd-newbies group is simply another > >> way of saying... RTFM? > >> > >> Seems like this should really be a group where people come in and say > >> "Hi...I'm Bob. I just installed freeBSD" and the rest of you go..."Hi > >> BOB!! RFTM!" and show him to the next room. Well..unless his/her > rc> name > >> isn't Bob. > >> > >> Merry Christmas everybody (Happy Holidays to those of other > >> faiths/cultures and those who are easily offended) and when I'm ready > rc> to install freeBSD...I'll know there's a handbook...and > >> a higher power to turn to. :) > >> > >> In all seriousness...have appreciated the ready help that always seems > >> available to everyone...I just don't get WTF this group is for!! :) > >> > >> Trish > >> > >> Friday, December 26, 2003, 9:53:54 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> rc> Hi, > >> > >> rc> You've posted to the wrong list (see newbie's FAK). . . > >> > >> rc> Also, there are sections of the handbook that deal with this > >> > >> rc> and other aspects of setting up the boot loader and partition > >> > >> rc> scheme. If you still have questions after perusing the relevent > >> > >> rc> sections of the handbook, please post to the questions list. > >> > >> rc> Happy Holidays, > >> > >> rc> Rob > >> > >> >> Hi list. Merry Christmas!! > >> >> > >> >> This is my first post on a Freebsd Mailing List, so don't be too > >> rc> harsh on me if my ettiquette isn't acceptable. > >> >> > >> >> Ok, I guess I'll get to the heart of this post: > >> >> > >> >> I'm trying to figure out how to boot 5-releng-1 alongside my 4- > rc> stable > >> rc> slice. > >> >> > >> >> After a surprisingly successful buildworld/kernel, installworld, I > >> rc> used /stand/sysinstall to fdisk/disklabel the appropriate > rc> partitions. > >> rc> By the way, both slices exist on the same disk. > >> >> > >> >> Booting to stable was fine, however, booting to current gave me: > >> >> > >> >> invalid partion > >> >> > >> >> I was, however, able to get it to work, when I pointed the boot to > >> rc> 0:ad(2,e)/boot/loader (which is the location of my current's root > >> rc> partition.) > >> >> > >> >> I'm happy with how my current installation went, but I may have > >> rc> missed a crucial step along the way. > >> >> > >> >> Any advice welcome > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies- > >> rc> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Trish mailto:failte@sentex.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies- > rc> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > rc> _______________________________________________ > rc> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > rc> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > rc> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Regards, > Trish mailto:failte@sentex.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com