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From: Peter Schultz <peter@jocose.org>
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On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:27:04AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <3E8AED1B.10606@jocose.org> Peter Schultz writes:
> : I hope that core will approve removing sendmail from FreeBSD-CURRENT.
> 
> Request denied.
> 
> 1) you made no case for it: Everybdoy knows this is a contentious
>    issue, yet no reasons were given.
> 2) You cc'd core and a public mailing list.  Don't ever do that again.

Duly noted.


> 3) Get consensus on arch@ first.  If you can't, then chances are good
>    that there won't be support for this.  Be sure to include how basic
>    systems will do email, and be prepared to supply patches to the
>    install system.
> 
I'll try one list at a time then.

1) Coordination between gshapiro@, as the apparent src tree maintainer,
   and dinoex@, as with the port, to prepare sendmail for it's switch.
2) Find out how NetBSD is solving not having a mailer.  Anyone here
   know, or have a friend that can help?
3) Notify relevant ports maintainers of the impending change.
4) Discuss where to present this during installation, implement.

I know that I cannot fix this problem by myself, so I kindly ask for
your assistance.  I do not endorse the "parting out" of FreeBSD either,
only to remove it's dependance on sendmail.  I think we can all see how
this is related to perl, where a lot of people are going to have it one
way or the other, they might as well have it with the flexibilty and
ease-of-use from using ports.

Pete...