From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 2 23:27:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFE414E7A for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10pQxG-0008TB-00; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 02:26:18 -0400 To: Leif Neland Cc: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29?= , Todd Backman , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: How to limit bulk mails. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 06:27:10 +0200." Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:26:11 -0400 Message-ID: <32560.928391171@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote in message ID : > Can't you put any (almost) clause into the subscriber licence agreement? You apparently have to be careful with this sort of thing. ISPs cannot impose punitive damages, as they are not a court of law. If you charge them a dollar fee for spamming from your dialops, you have to be willing to prove (in a court of law) that the `fine' is infact a justifiable recovery of costs (*NOT* including damages) from the users actions (i.e. hiring abuse staff, paper trail, etc). I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong, but thats what our local abuse types say... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message