From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 13:40:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDD010656B3 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C351E8FC1D for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OthMf-0005vt-49 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:40:33 +0200 Received: from nuclight.avtf.net ([217.29.94.29]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:40:33 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by nuclight.avtf.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:40:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <201009011653.o81Grkm4056064@fire.js.berklix.net> <4C8704E3.5000408@FreeBSD.org> <201009080842.28495.jhb@freebsd.org> <4C879A09.9080804@icyb.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nuclight.avtf.net X-Comment-To: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Policy for removing working code X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:40:35 -0000 Hi Andriy Gapon! On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:13:29 +0300; Andriy Gapon wrote about 'Re: Policy for removing working code': >> network stack, it is deeper. It is the policy or may be style of thought, >> discourse. Something like: >> progress dictates we need fix/maintainership to feature X >> & we have no resources to maintain feature X >> -> we announce theis need, but only to _limited_ audience, not wide circles >> -> nobody responds >> -> the X code is removed >> AND we think this logic chain is correct, thought we did not things this way >> even 5 years ago. > So, get to work, become a committer, get elected to core and have a control over > these procedures. [And maybe your perspectives will change along the way] > Until then, please, let's stop wasting time on this issue. And, after several years for all of this, to see that FreeBSD have lost many old users? That's will be too late. You retort here ad hominem, while the policy quoted above is true. Nobody has to be core@ member to predict this policy will eventually harm FreeBSD userbase. Anybody could say that meal is bad, he don't need to be head-cook for this to taste and say. P.S. If I couldn't explain why you were wrong here, there is an article in another language that does this much better: http://lurkmore.ru//%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8F -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Moderator of RU.ANTI-ECOLOGY][FreeBSD][http://antigreen.org][LJ:/nuclight]