From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 5 22:28:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF64D1065675 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carstenmattner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE88FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so9352510ghb.13 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VQEy2kWmfbHNs3fvOMyrP9GH7YSlafVWMFvg3hUP944=; b=sFWRk8z7KP5Pa9Ls86Loo9dhEMPWk8AjE1L3ja/ZfQS9FTqao2IP73n/bgRQlB8rhM fQAwpgBGdUz/n8QTEKwKhAti5xIjlaI9+fLmy7XCR+82RK77PFMQALElUjUwQT7XdsMi X63hsQhtt7RhPxd9bkYqFFBnL/d4KiYefYxe1dlf1puL2CKVoBkhTub2dzLsAe6+ddrW pBzrzcXzKzMTFEktXFKRdNzeTDM7nnEnkVPUbJ7dQIFetPfPsv7gSUNXAMN6LiXFXEWb x4k4FEW70XoY7NbfEKqqe+luoqG7jpMR/CapWFS6w7myiWtZS2Hrdbcp6WS2xpLce+wP bHQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.46.132 with SMTP id v4mr1032435igm.25.1341527312674; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.9.78 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1341406026965-5724143.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: Carsten Mattner To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:28:33 -0000 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not >>> possible >>> except very basic bug is there. >> >> >> Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local >> disks. > > > true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are > million bugs. > > i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. > But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. > > Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? Julian? Which Firefox version? I am a little concerned. >> There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and >> only the site that created and owns the file may access it. > > From what version? http://people.mozilla.com/~tglek/velocity2012/ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/FileHandleAPI Planned as a supplement or replacement for IndexedDb it seems.