From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 24 17:32:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D8CBDD for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89D6949 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:32:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=4zThfqJyoSwROSkhTdeQxwz31ii2suOqu6APL9gwhsU=; b=bQ9mMpqRazLsw0/wWRmn52FAVIWTm+M2qvZYyvvBRfwQz+ZQntFR83IPote8Rqj1DDGMP1U+CicTez2BTiDqP/8HwL7v854fLgXQsb75wiYTJdtuuKhs7rIIUIv2pWrb; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TyQeg-0009OR-8F; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:32:02 -0600 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1359048721-4111-4109/5/1; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:32:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Adam McDougall Subject: Re: gmirror doubt. References: <20130124165043.GB2386@garage.freebsd.pl> <51016DBC.5050001@egr.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:32:01 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <51016DBC.5050001@egr.msu.edu> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:32:03 -0000 On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:22:04 -0600, Adam McDougall wrote: > > Just putting in my 2 cents that I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE a sysctl to disable > tasting by geom, even if global. My #1 extreme frustration with gmirror, > gjournal etc is the difficulty of removing the on-disk config when the > kernel is fighting you to keep re-tasting it and keeping it active. I can't agree more. The GEOM framework and tasting is brilliant, but we need to be able to control it.