From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Jun 2 11:31:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BB9BF5E58 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from toco-domains.de (mail.toco-domains.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:150:50a5::6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0EA084B67 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (mail.toco-domains.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:150:50a5::6]) by toco-domains.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 31DB81AAF058; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 13:31:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: The future of portmaster [and of ports-mgmt/synth] To: Jim Ohlstein , Stari Karp , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <589B133C-0175-4DD2-8847-5A3E0E697B36@dsl-only.net> <20170530200629.GA10517@lonesome.com> <20170530215306.GB11098@lonesome.com> <9499F327-172A-4E04-B446-05EE5F08CC51@adamw.org> <1496398252.20031.1.camel@yandex.com> <1496399049.1994.10.camel@mailman-hosting.com> From: Torsten Zuehlsdorff Message-ID: <1f134f08-faf5-b345-fd9e-1fb1bf265c50@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 13:31:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1496399049.1994.10.camel@mailman-hosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:31:24 -0000 On 02.06.2017 12:24, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > On Fri, 2017-06-02 at 06:10 -0400, Stari Karp wrote: >> Looks like the new portmaster is coming but what is about Synth? I am >> the user of Synth and I like to know what the FreeBSD leaders >> decided, >> please. >> > > The "FreeBSD leaders," in their infinite wisdom, decided to can John > Marino. Synth development will likely go on, geared towards Dragonfly. > Whether it will support future FreeBSD ports enhancements is anyone's > guess. While i can follow the critique i want to say: out of experience in various communities - online and offline: if one project is centered around one single person it will fail. Its just a matter of time and exceptions are rarely. If someone likes synth please support it. Programming is just one single part needed to keep a project alive, even a programming-project. If you feel you are not a programmer, but for example a manager, manage to ask people for support, for feedback, for programming, etc. Greetings, Torsten