From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 28 17:08:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946971065675 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@glenbarber.us) Received: from glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [199.48.134.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14EAB8FC14 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 63278 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 2012 17:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 108-111-58-24.pools.spcsdns.net) (108.111.58.24) by 0 with SMTP; 28 Jul 2012 17:08:57 -0000 References: <20120728041732.GH1485@glenbarber.us> <9B7CD8B1-42CB-487D-9C27-C9F6D39CD600@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <9B7CD8B1-42CB-487D-9C27-C9F6D39CD600@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Glen Barber Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:08:45 -0400 To: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" ,Glen Barber Message-ID: <40854dbc-f4c1-4609-9f48-791a1886c0c9@email.android.com> Cc: webmaster@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Documentation Masters , World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: Removal of old/outdated files from www.FreeBSD.org site X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:08:59 -0000 "Simon L. B. Nielsen" wrote: >[Adding www@ so more people will see and we can wait a bit with the >next time this comes up :) ] > Thank you. >On 28 Jul 2012, at 05:17, Glen Barber wrote: > >[Stale files] > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/x5798.html >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/x5802.html >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/x5834.html >> >> If someone from clusteradm@ (or someone else with access to the >machine >> on which the documentation build output exists) can remove these old >> files so they are not archived by search engines (since in some >cases, >> old file names can indicate very old files, and worse, very old >> information that could be potentially dangerous to a user looking for >> specific information), I would greatly appreciate it. > >The problem is that it's not a simple thing to do. Our build installs >with the option to not install if files are identical, so timestamps >can't be used alone. > Ah, I did forget about that. >E.g. >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/TRADEMARKS.html : > >-r--r--r-- 1 www wwwadm 4494 Jan 9 2010 TRADEMARKS.html > >I have removed the mentioned files but I don't have time to do a full >sweep as I might end up deleting too much. > Ok, thank you. My big concern is if someone "accidentally" finds an old document and does something potentially dangerous to their system. >> Furthermore, if someone with the appropriate access can provide a >list >> of similarly-named files (which also likely can be fixed with adding >a >> section id to the source), I will personally fix the section id so >these >> files do not occur again. (It would be even more helpful if the >files >> could be provided as an attachment so I can view the source to track >> down from where they are being generated.) > >There is no need for special access to do that. Just build all the docs >in html-split and find xNNNN.html files. It's a regular thing which has >to be done as people forget when adding new content. I also remember >hunting down those files when I more active in doc. > I will look into this for a permanent solution then. It is difficult to spot unless local changes are made though. But, 'make clean' followed by 'svn stat' will reveal these edge cases. >I just looked at porters-handboot and it seems there is at least one >left: > >-r--r--r-- 1 www wwwadm 2917 Jul 26 13:31 x5834.html > Yes, this should be fixed now. This is the section ID I added yesterday. >

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> Anyway, thanks for looking into it. Glen -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.