From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 7 21:53:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE7B37B419 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fB85rgx19145; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 06:53:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <013901c17fac$b23dc6a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" , "Brad Knowles" Cc: References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a0 0000a@atkielski.com><3C110351.4748B559@duth.gr><005001c17f6c$e60c0ef0$ 0a00000a@atkielski.com><15377.17350.796336.801464@guru.mired.org><0069 01c17f70$19a2f820$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15377.18218.830731.410656@gu ru.mired.org><008101c17f9a$1a4a4290$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15377.3661 7.358466.76379@guru.mired.org><00ab01c17f9d$0bde8510$0a00000a@atkielsk i.com> <15377.37214.213789.306335@guru.mired.org> <00c901c17f9f$e80a95e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 06:53:42 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad writes: > The Macintosh is far easier to use, and has far > better integration between the OS, the hardware, > and the software. The Mac respresents only a fraction of the desktop market. There must be a reason for that, and I do not think that it is a dark conspiracy. > They're also much better designed, and much more > easily upgraded or repaired. Then why do most people continue to use Windows on the desktop? > For someone who truly has no idea what they > want to use the computer for, Windows would > probably be the worst possible choice you > could give them -- unreliable OS, unreliable > software, and frequently unreliable hardware. Hmm ... how could the choice of _software_ on a machine make the _hardware_ unreliable? In any case, I've never seen any evidence that any of these is the case. The conventional Mac OS crashes at least as often as consumer versions of Windows, and much more often than NT-based versions of Windows (or UNIX). > Again, that's not true. As I've pointed out previously, UNIX and Windows are about even in the server market right now, in terms of installed hosts (from what I was able to glean from the statistics I read). > How many Windows servers do you think > AOL has? I don't know. But AOL != entire server market, so why is that important? > How many Windows servers do you think that > Yahoo! has? See above. > You can't just use the Netcraft host survey results > (or any other host survey results I know of), because > the number of web servers out there is not a representative > sample of the total number of servers out there. Moreover, > none of the host surveys I know of can distinguish > between NT Desktop and NT Server editions, and by your > own definition these two camps are mutually exclusive. Okay ... but this is still not a reason to _disbelieve_ the provided numbers, as there is no contradictory evidence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message