From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 2 21:50:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10660 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (brosenga.st.pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10655; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00418; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:46:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: Snob Art Genre To: "David S. Miller" cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, dyson@FreeBSD.org, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org, torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi, lm@engr.sgi.com, iain@sbs.de, sparclinux@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: TCP/IP bandwidth bragging In-Reply-To: <199612030217.VAA18178@jenolan.caipgeneral> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, David S. Miller wrote: > And as for the marketdroid's tally sheet, that sells machines > pinhead. If you think it does not, why does the government spec Why do you come to our list and call a respected member of our community a pinhead? You've been treated civilly; return the favor, please. > lmbench numbers for all purchases these days? What concrete numbers > are you able to put on that tally sheet? None, because whatever > benchmarks the freebsd people are using to perform their improvements > are under lock and key, most likely because once the Linux crowd had > these at their disposal, we'd fix the problems they show because > they'd be trivial. I'm not concerned. > > I think it is funny how the Linux crowd brags about numbers that > anyone can grab the sources for and run for themselves. Whereas the > freebsd people brag about performance characteristics that they claim > _they_ can test and get numbers for, but the rest of the world has to > wonder whether such benchmarks even exist. Whatever. What evidence can you produce for this? It sounds to me like you made it up. I haven't seen a whole lot of benchmark bragging from FreeBSDers, nor from anyone else, really. > So my performance translates into real world, so I don't want to hear > your whining over this matter any more. Where do you think you are? You are acting like the children one might find on PC BBSs eight years ago. > Oh yes, and our main Linux mail server btw runs SparcLinux, over a 100 > lists, the most active ones (say 10 or so) have many thousands of > subscribers. It is multiuser, holds all my CVS sources, has a full > FTP archive, and runs an actively used web server. Oh and btw, this > is a dinky 40MHz SparcClassic (4k I and D caches, thats it) with 40MB > of ram and two SCSI disks. The load never goes over 4. This proves to me once again what I've believed for years: free unixes are excellent. > ---------------------------------------------//// > Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & //// > 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s //// > ethernet. Beat that! //// > -----------------------------------------////__________ o > David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ >< > Ben The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia.