From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Mar 20 4:43:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D403155FF for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26249; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:41:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:41:47 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Brett Glass Cc: Mark Diekhans , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape browser Message-ID: <19990320084146.A25246@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <4.1.19990319134858.03fd24e0@localhost> <4.1.19990319114734.00b794b0@localhost> <4.1.19990319103804.00a8ec60@localhost> <4.1.19990319114734.00b794b0@localhost> <4.1.19990319134858.03fd24e0@localhost> <199903192134.NAA19894@osprey.grizzly.com> <4.1.19990319171820.00c28ed0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990319171820.00c28ed0@localhost>; from Brett Glass on Fri, Mar 19, 1999 at 05:26:53PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brett, On Fri, Mar 19, 1999 at 05:26:53PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > >>It's not a long shot at all; it's really the biggest chance FreeBSD has > >>to leverage the success of Linux. Linux emulation, by contrast, was the > >>long shot -- and in fact a very bad strategy. He who emulates, suffocates. > > > >I see little agreement with this assertion; and my experience doesn't > >agree either. > > You claim to write software. But have you ever marketed it? Are you > aware of what tactics have actually succeeded out there in the cold, hard, > real world? I'd venture to say that you're refusing to learn from history > and hence are doomed to repeat it. FreeBSD == the OS/2 of the free software > world. At this point it doesn't matter what Jordan or anyone else thinks of this idea. If you think it's a good idea then just *go and do it*. If it works, that's great. If it doesn't work, well, that's a bit of a pisser, but sometimes the world works like that. Expending all this energy just *talking* about it when there's no code to talk about is, basically, fruitless. In fact, it's probably worse than that. There's *nothing* the *BSD folks can do to stop you (and others) writing a FreeBSD emulator for Linux. I suspect you might have a harder job selling it to the RedHat, Debian, and other distributions, but you can at least give it a shot. If nothing else it'll be quite a cool technology demonstration. [ Aside: on a related note, the VMWare folks; can a host OS and a guest OS talk to one another? If they can, it might be more interesting to *really* push for FreeBSD to be supported as a host OS so we can then run Linux binaries that way. Linux is already a supported host OS, so Linux can *already* run FreeBSD binaries. Worth thinking about. ] Just go and do it. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message