Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:05:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Jacqueline BOITELLE <famille-boitelle@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Newbies Questions Message-ID: <88451350.14733.1366470326353.JavaMail.www@wwinf1p12>
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Hello =C2=A0 here I am new to the bsd system and I would like you exposed my questions a= nd also my coming here =C2=A0 know that not insite to troll;) =C2=A0 my coming computer began at the age of 8 years on a type of mac 128k I have= given anyone around me make small hack (jentend by looking if I delete it = if it's going to change as or that thing ...... etc.) and it is true that m= y parents will often taken (especially when I was on Windows computer with = a technician) today I did all that I meme except for the replacement materi= al, I knew if I may say the evolution of my first personal computer was a w= indows 3.1> 95> mE> XP> 7> 8 and it is true many have started changing appe= arances of menus, beginning internet, reliability not very good but with no= table progress it is true that today we have as good reliability on Linux except for win8 = win8 and millennium I would say that the engine is good cabin has major cha= nge but the electronics are not followed =C2=A0 --------------- =C2=A0 I came to the bsd family because I wanted to find the passions annimait me = when I discovered the windows computer today is more automated security enh= ancements certe but almost one month after it is all out and then crack rel= iability leaves much wished he planted I do it many times without knowing w= hy =C2=A0 Today I was looking for more than tampering before (a little bit) I want to= know more what is behind the cabin or in the engine what are l=C3=A9l=C3= =A9ment that starts and subsequently what, =C3=A7i or that etc =C2=A0 ---------------- =C2=A0 LINUX =C2=A0 I have tested several times linux but I try to be interested but I thought = it was strange that a messy system certe but pretty much by philosophy I es= pecially remember the numerous distributions by allieur I do not understand= why there was so especially in the desktop category Then I see a preponderance at the hand of ubuntu which is bizare because I = think cannonical not very involved in the elaboration and the improvements = in the Linux kernel community is against the levels of market share very st= rong it is true that when have seen open source software there are binary b= ut all too often the meme distributions it has remained a meme be compiled =C2=A0 but linux does not interest me one day jy can be back but for now it does n= ot interest me =C2=A0 ----------------- =C2=A0 BSD =C2=A0 this is a day that I am in PC-BSD I enjoy clear information and a lot of de= tails I am also surprised to hear my pc when I was working on windows it is= true that if one compares the port windows it saddens me store windows sto= re has 50,000 applications while the freebsd port to have only 20 000 (I th= ink) but I see this nice beautiful system used better than the distribution= s for the desktop lighter uses much better all for free even if linux is al= so free implementation has some configuration error I is not had a lot of c= rashes PBI system is just great have created a module port, and presto! have can m= ake a pbi without problem also support HD card ati leaves wished I can not = play games (I have a ati hd 4670) but it is true that I do not yet many exp= erience in this system =C2=A0 there is something else that I tested ~ 2years OPEN-SOLARIS an equally bril= liant and especially a manufacturing system by sun and unfortunately the su= n redemption by oracle has changed the most open-solaris, more open office = today must make a profit and it seems to me that there was not much develop= er who was paid to do a job that could have freely modified and make best =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP=C3=8AN-BAR =C2=A0 I would also tell you that the French Ministry of Defence through the open = bar has decided to fully equipped computer using these windows is =E2=82=AC= 100 per post and the cerat microsoft support and software come to ireland =C2=A0 I would come back later if I have further questions answer =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cordially From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 20 15:40:21 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218562ED for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D11BE for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B86F24B1B; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:40:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3KFeRO9003524; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:40:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:40:27 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Jacqueline BOITELLE <famille-boitelle@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Newbies Questions Message-Id: <20130420174027.5ac23e97.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <88451350.14733.1366470326353.JavaMail.www@wwinf1p12> References: <88451350.14733.1366470326353.JavaMail.www@wwinf1p12> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:40:21 -0000 On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:05:26 +0200 (CEST), Jacqueline BOITELLE wrote: > I came to the bsd family because I wanted to find the passions > annimait me when I discovered the windows computer today is more > automated security enhancements certe but almost one month after > it is all out and then crack reliability leaves much wished he > planted I do it many times without knowing why Except that many of those "security" aspects don't really work. They cannot compensate the severe design flaws of "Windows", which in its heart is a single-user single-task (and nowadays single-window) system. FreeBSD is different. Because it is derived from UNIX, it has a long track of good security through established concepts and modern implementations. > I have tested several times linux but I try to be interested but > I thought it was strange that a messy system certe but pretty > much by philosophy I especially remember the numerous distributions > by allieur I do not understand why there was so especially in the > desktop category Linux distribution are about choice. Because there is no way to make a system that pleases everyone, and also because it's hard to make a certain compilation of software run everywhere, several different Linusi have emerged. They are different in shells, in packaging system, in preconfigured and preinstalled applications and in documentation. FreeBSD on the other hand is a multi-purpose system. The same OS can be used on a laptop, on a desktop workstation, on a server, on a "combined system" (e. g. workstation having server functionalities), even on embedded. The OS itself is maintained by _one_ body, and clearly separated from 3rd party applications. > Then I see a preponderance at the hand of ubuntu which is bizare > because I think cannonical not very involved in the elaboration > and the improvements in the Linux kernel community is against the > levels of market share very strong it is true that when have seen > open source software there are binary but all too often the meme > distributions it has remained a meme be compiled Ubuntu seems to be one of the most prominent Linux distribtions and therefore is very active in gaining mind share and usage share. > this is a day that I am in PC-BSD I enjoy clear information and a > lot of details It's FreeBSD in its heart, so yes: All the underlying structures are there, ready to use. > I am also surprised to hear my pc when I was working on windows It seems that FreeBSD uses the system's resources more efficiently, whereas common bloatware requires fans to keep running all the time, and disks heavily accessing stuff. > it is true that if one compares the port windows it saddens me > store windows store has 50,000 applications while the freebsd > port to have only 20 000 (I think) And how many of the 50,000 "Windows" applications can you get the source code for? Can all of them be updated with one command, without constant hand-holding? Software ported to FreeBSD usually is of high quality in general. It's not just the programs, it's also very often the good documentation. > but I see this nice beautiful system used better than the > distributions for the desktop lighter uses much better all > for free even if linux is also free implementation has some > configuration error I is not had a lot of crashes Troubleshooting is often difficult on Linux. There are situations where you cannot simply test "a simple change", and getting information can also be hard because nobody seems to really care. > PBI system is just great have created a module port, and presto! PBI is specific to PC-BSD, it's not part of the regular FreeBSD packaging system. > have can make a pbi without problem also support HD card ati > leaves wished I can not play games (I have a ati hd 4670) but > it is true that I do not yet many experience in this system It seems that more modern ATI cards don't have the best support, as I've heared. In comparison, my old ATI Radeon 9200 (AGP card) has been recognized by the stock (!) "ati" driver being part of the (obsoleted) XFree86 system, and it had enough 3D power to allow me to play games. > there is something else that I tested ~ 2years OPEN-SOLARIS an > equally brilliant and especially a manufacturing system by sun > and unfortunately the sun redemption by oracle has changed the > most open-solaris, more open office today must make a profit and > it seems to me that there was not much developer who was paid to > do a job that could have freely modified and make best I'd like to think that LibreOffice has become the common replacement for OpenOffice in free software distributions. Also note: What Oracle touches, that turns into crap. :-( I wish you fun experiencing FreeBSD. You'll probably learn a lot which will position you on top of the food chain, compared to common "Minesweeper Consultant Solitaire Experts". :-) PS. Am I right to assume that your text has been automatically translated? There seem to be "some words" missing. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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