From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 29 18:26:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AE237B416 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.132.83]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011130022646.VCSV24249.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com>; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:26:46 -0500 From: Steve Brown Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 02:36:39 GMT Message-ID: <20011130.2363900@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) To: Anthony Atkielski , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <030301c17943$c4f47790$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <20011129192802.Y62172-100000@big> <030301c17943$c4f47790$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is really getting [OT] but I have to ask: What's the ratio of legal= =20 vs. pirated software use here in Canada? A few years ago Peter Dvorak (P= C=20 magazine) stated in an article that Canadians were among the world's=20 worst software pirates. But when I was in Hong Kong & China I saw that=20 they openly sell copies of popular titles for about the cost of a Big=20 Mac, so I fear we've lost the honor to Asia ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/29/01, 9:07:29 PM, "Anthony Atkielski"=20 wrote regarding Re: Feeding the Troll (W= as:=20 freebsd as a desktop ?): > Uli writes: > > No. Piracy is not a major problem in Europe. > Piracy rates for Western Europe are about 40% higher than they are for= =20 North > America; overall, more than a third of software products in Western=20 Europe are > pirated (versus 25% for North America). Eastern Europe has the worst = piracy > rates in the world, at about 75%. Asia and Latin America are tied at = about 60%. > The rates for North America are the lowest of any region in the world.= > The dollar losses are about the same for both North America and Wester= n=20 Europe. > Americans don't cheat nearly as much, but they buy a lot more software= =20 overall. > > No. Dishonesty is not a cultural institution > > in Southern Europe. > I'm afraid this isn't true. The piracy rates for France, Italy,=20 Portugal, and > Spain are 39%, 44%, 47%, and 53%, respectively. The rates for Finland= ,=20 Germany, > and Norway are 30%, 27%, and 37%, respectively. > > Italy is one of the worst offenders > > Italy is a state and not a person. > Irrelevant. Actually, however, Italy is in fifth place (my mistake): = =20 The > leading offender is Greece, with a staggering 71% of software stolen=20 rather than > paid for; in second and third place are Spain (53%) and, surprisingly,= =20 Ireland > (51%). > > as the actual numbers prove? > Yes. See above. These are BSA/SIIA figures for 1999. They are down = from > preceding years, but still pretty bad. Even in the United States, the= > best-behaved of the lot, one person in four has stolen the software he= is=20 using. > > oh - as you recall. > See above. My recollection is pretty good. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message