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Date:      Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:09:47 -0700
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com>
To:        Zhihui Zhang <zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu>
Cc:        Ilia Chipitsine <ilia@cgilh.chel.su>, "Jason L. Schwab" <jschwab@royal.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: reading files.
Message-ID:  <3765537B.6D0BC801@3-cities.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.3.96.990614140451.8308A-100000@sol.cs.binghamton.edu>

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Zhihui Zhang wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Ilia Chipitsine wrote:
> 
> > > Unless you are root or has somehow gotten the root password.  Or you may
> > > steal the hard drive and examine it elsewhere. BTW, I know Windows-NT has
> > > a feature that does not allow the Administrator (known as root in Unix) to
> > > access the file of a normal user.  I wonder if this feature can be added
> > > to FreeBSD easily.
> >
> > it can be added easily, use PGP, that was the how i prevented my
> > account at my school to be examined by root.
> >
> 
> Pretty Good Privacy? Can you show me how to do it in FreeBSD or give me
> any pointers?

I think something like PGP is the only way. The way I remember
administrator priviledges with NT is that you can't keep me from
accessing a file. I just have to take ownership of the user's
directories and then change the ownership of the file I want to look at.
When I get through, I would have to change the ownership of everything I
changed back to the user. I also think this would leave many tracks
behind, which isn't a quiet way like su'ing to the user from root.

As a backup operator, I think I could backup your files and restore them
on a different system. Then you wouldn't know I have accessed your
files. I've never backed up a user's files on one system and restored
them to another system but I have never seen anything that would prevent
me from doing that. I may have to add the user to that system but then I
would know the password and it would be trivial.

The problem with PGP is that by the time you have a pretty good key it
will be easy to forget and then you have lost access to your file.

Kent

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Zhihui
> 
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