From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 15 12:16:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C374C984 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A9782CAE for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:16:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=bFXXCYerxew3rmRqfJVnm3bSDT0X7rDP5gO3zufLxqo=; b=JVR2RWmJr2Z5Z5YOJ7rBTblQ2qRQpr6accvoOkxK9JyZFK6SY5c86BdOn3lcU7wKw7ob9QkSnbB0AlXZNG83OuNyQJLSx+dTLBgno/Leo1AgksnhKuAAk0TJMdfTm7iZFX2gw3GM91rC37qIVTejcUoD2gP4cs1Fm17SeoP4qTw=; Received: from [182.0.242.251] (port=44682 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VW3YR-001K7i-Kt; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 06:16:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:16:44 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: UPS buying suggestion Message-ID: <20131015201644.228f1ae2@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1381837542.757.45.camel@archlinux> References: <20131015134826.528289be@X220.ovitrap.com> <20131015163434.5834988c@X220.ovitrap.com> <1381837542.757.45.camel@archlinux> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erich@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:16:54 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:45:42 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 16:34 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > The power meter will show you the actual W consumed by the device > > but not the VA that your UPS will have to deliver. > > The shown kWh can be converted to average W, where VA more or less is > equal to W. > > http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/electric/wh-to-watt.htm > http://askville.amazon.com/Watt-Volt-Amper/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3916116 from your link: 'For what are known as "reactive loads" the answer is no. Reactive l' A PC is a reactive load. > > Anyway, you can't trust those power meters. Do not think so bad. It is all a matter of price. Erich