From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 2 03:53:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDA7328CE3 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49bdSZ0FsXz3RMY for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 0523qUmJ057329 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 22:52:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: Migrating To Python 3.x From: Tim Daneliuk To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <02676140-06dd-a947-b7b4-0f6ccbeaf773@tundraware.com> <0b794721-3548-0882-58ff-7eedd54fe645@tundraware.com> Autocrypt: addr=tundra@tundraware.com; 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RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tundraware.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.40)[-0.404]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.76)[-0.757]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.31)[-0.307]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:45.55.32.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 03:53:51 -0000 On 6/1/20 5:25 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 6/1/20 5:17 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> What else did you manage in your mail server setup depend on the sneaky snake (python)? > > > Bind claims it needs it, but I suspect bind will be ok if I change the > default python version and reinstall. > > Samba says the same thing. > > A lot of the dependencies seems to be for mailman. > > So I was able to move everything over to python 3.7 _except_ mailman which, of course requires python 2.7. However, I keep running into the old problem that the setuptools for each of these versions conflict with each other because they install in the same location (why? everything else in multi-verion python lives under its own directory tree.) Until/unless I can figure out a reasonable way to work around this, everything either has to live under 2.7 past EOL or I cannot run mailman2 (which is not an option unless mailman3 gets ported). Has anyone every managed to get py2 and py3 to coexist happily on FreeBSD including their respective pips and setuptools? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/