From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 26 12:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18947 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18939 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA15373; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:12:16 -0800 (PST) To: Warner Losh cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SUP In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:04:52 MST." Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:12:16 -0800 Message-ID: <15369.859407136@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I understand that. It might have been nice to give warning. However, [jkh beats his head against the wall] But I'm saying we DID give warning! Lots of warning! More than adequate warning! The problem is that people don't friggin' LISTEN to warnings when we give them! We might as well be talking to a field of stumps when we say "Sup is going away soon! Everyone upgrade to CVSup and CTM OK? OK??" The fact is that no matter what we did, including parking the Goodyear Blimp over your house with a flashing "Upgrade to CVSup! Upgrade, Warner, Upgrade!" banner on its belly, you probably wouldn't upgrade until forced to at gunpoint. You have other demands on your schedule and upgrades are a hassle, we know that, but please don't misidentify a human nature issue as a byproduct of "volunteer organization", OK? :-) > Hmmm, hand't thought of the ftp site option. Which machine is this? [jkh wonders if Warner has had his coffee this morning] I could mention one obvious choice, but wouldn't that sort of be an insult to your intelligence? :-) Jordan