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Date:      Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:46:04 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jeremy Shaffner <jer@jorsm.com>
To:        "Ross Potts, CON, EDS/D-SIDDOMS" <rpotts@med.osd.mil>
Cc:        FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ISDN
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980909100724.29720I-100000@mercury.jorsm.com>
In-Reply-To: <9808141005.ZM-184733@161.14.168.22>

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This may be late, but maybe it will help.


> Thinking about trying the tiny ISP thing.  I want to build something like a 
> small ISP for my local family members(of course Id be using FBSD for the host).
> 
> I got the pricing from Bell Atlantic for the line, but they say I still
> need an ISP. 

Of course.  You need an upstream connection, whether you're a small ISP
using ISDN or a large ISP using a T1 or better, you still need a network
connection.

> Could someone explain this to me?  Say I wanted dedicated 128K.  That
> would cost me $200/month, plus I need to subscribe to
> "somebody.whatever" for an additional $20/month? 

Yes.  The "Dedicated" part involves the ISP though, not the TelCo.
 
> Plus, with a 128K line, the way it's explained, I can accept incoming calls at 
> the same time.  Is that true?

The average ISDN user can use both B channels to connect to their ISP.  An
incoming call can free up the second channel to let them receive a call
(Their connection will drop down to 64K).  When the call is completed the
TA will add the 2nd channel back.  You'd need a ISDN line with the right
options and an Terminal Adapter that support DBA (Dynamic Bandwidth
Allocation.)

This isn't really what you want to do anyway.  You want all 128K available
at all times for your users.

> 
> Can anyone direct me to a FAQ or something explaing the typical cost breakdown 
> of something like this.
> 

ISP (Whatever they charge for 128K Dedicated ISDN)
|
|
| - 1 ISDN BRI line (Whatever telco charges)
|
|
YOU (Using whatever ISDN router you choose)
|
FreeBSD (Acting as a terminal server)
    |
   [ ]   (Multiport serial card.  Cyclades, etc)
  /   \
modem modem (etc) 
  |     |
 POTS  POTS (1 regular phone line for each modem, whatever telco charges.)


You could "get by" with NATD, but you might consider buying multiple IP's
from your ISP so you'd have an IP for the router, the FBSD box, and each
dialup.  You'd have to work this out with them, including a domain name if
you want one.  


> -- 
> Potts, Ross A.		    Internet : Ross.Potts@med.osd.mil
> EDS-D/SIDDOMS		    Phone    : (703) 824-7601
> Skyline Two, Suite 1200	    Beeper   : (888) 687-2709
> 5113 Leesburg Pike,	    FAX      : (703) 824-4155
> Falls Church, VA 22041



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Senior Technical Support 		  Northwest Indiana's Premium
jer@jorsm.com				   Internet Service Provider	
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