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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0db1123f3ab1073edf1b035d62d96404; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 14:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build) From: Mark Millard X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <2037391737.2952.1758873664938@localhost> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 07:51:26 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3BDA08A0-F73D-4B7A-95FD-303AAC5FBBB5@yahoo.com> References: <2037391737.2952.1758873664938@localhost> To: Ronald Klop X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cYD7L6533z3gsG On Sep 26, 2025, at 01:01, Ronald Klop wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Does anybody know on what machine the new 15arm64 builds will be = running? As that will give another long running build on these machines = which are already under pressure. I really hope there will be a new = machine available for this. Tier 1 requires (quoting): =E2=80=A2 Official binary packages for third party software will be provided by the ports team. For embedded architectures, these packages may be cross-built from a different architecture. =E2=80=A2 Dedicated hardware in one of the FreeBSD clusters for package building (either natively or via qemu-user). =E2=80=A2 Developers should be able to build packages on commonly available, non-embedded Tier 1 systems. This can mean either native builds if non-embedded systems are commonly available for the platform in question, or it can mean cross-builds=20 hosted on some other Tier 1 architecture. Tier 2 does not. But (quoting): =E2=80=A2 The ports infrastructure should include basic support for Tier 2 architectures sufficient to support building ports and packages. This includes support for basic packages such as ports-mgmt/pkg, but there is no guarantee that arbitrary ports will be buildable or functional. =E2=80=A2 Tier 2 platforms should be self-hosting either via the in-tree toolchain or an external toolchain. If an external toolchain is required, official binary packages for an external toolchain will be provided. So: no claim of Official binary packages for general 3rd party software. armv7 is Tier 2 for All Supported Platforms (13.*, 14.*, and upcoming 15.*). Technically FreeBSD could choose to not do as many types (or any types) of armv7 builds for a time. Or they could go back to trying to use qemu on amd64 for targeting armv7 for a time for at least some types of builds. (As I remember, the qemu armv6 builds were only able to build a few thousand ports towards the end of the armv6 official builds time frame.) Or adding new builder machines. Or just adding to the work load on the existing builder machines, still doing some or all of the armv7 builds. It will be interesting to see what is done. Mark > Regards, > Ronald. >=20 > Van: Mark Millard > Datum: vrijdag, 26 september 2025 07:48 > Aan: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org > Onderwerp: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 = and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 = build) > The port-package builds are done and ampere2 is doing the > "clean_restricted:" and "pkgrepo:" sorts of final stages > before distribution servers around the world are updated. >=20 > The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1 > (or later) and take less time, even if the number of > port-package builds is the same. >=20 > Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+ > based before the next build starts. >=20 =20 =20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com