From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 05:23:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C04F1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7B748FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Dec 2008 04:57:02 -0000 Received: from g225192118.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO balu.cs.uni-paderborn.de) [92.225.192.118] by mail.gmx.net (mp059) with SMTP; 03 Dec 2008 05:57:02 +0100 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19UeX45laRUuf+F4y+3QTZ/JEm5PYq4K/v/lhzGve oSWFlHdReBGevD Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by balu.cs.uni-paderborn.de with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id KBAB2Z-000CCW-4I; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4936119A.6020905@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:56:58 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081105 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.18 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" References: <20081128234155.0221e263@serene.no-ip.org> <4930D7CE.4080909@psg.com> <20081202220643.72eb52a3@serene.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <20081202220643.72eb52a3@serene.no-ip.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i give up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:23:45 -0000 Conrad J. Sabatier schrieb: > No, actually, I forwarded to Soren all the information I could glean > from Windows Vista, Linux and FreeBSD (which I managed to install on an > external USB drive). I also applied the patches he sent me, which > failed to cure the problem, and have been monitoring the mailing lists > and CVS repo for any signs of progress, but so far I've seen nothing. Seems Soeren is busy with family and real life, with contributions that are far between but usually high quality... OTOH, > So, what can I say, other than that it's been a great 12 years, and I > will sadly miss continuing to be an active member of the FreeBSD > community, your flippant response notwithstanding. Perhaps if you'd > been following the lists more closely over the last several months, > you'd have realized that this was not my first post on this subject, > although it will probably be the last. I'd certainly love it if I were > proven wrong and a solution to my problem was indeed forthcoming, but > given the utter silence and neglect I've been seeing, I'm not holding > out any great hopes. ...I've seen this deafening silence with Linux, too, with various distros: I've tried SuSE/openSUSE and Ubuntu, and there are outright showstopper bugs that have been unfixed for months, if not years. If it runs somedistro Version X.Y, you can never be sure that X.(Y+2) causes no regressions -- I've seen that happen with clock drivers, a pet peeve of mine: cause erratic clock behaviour that ntpd cannot correct. Error handling in drivers is often a game of luck with Linux... it's always a compromise, aka "choose your poison". I don't feel tied to any of the communities, but hop here and there, since then having to cut ties doesn't hurt if there is nothing to cut :-) At least, Linux desktop experience in graphical surfaces is "feels more responsive" for me... Take care -- Matthias Andree