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Date:      Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:00:02 -0500
From:      Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression
Message-ID:  <1233086402.1981.33.camel@wombat.2hip.net>
In-Reply-To: <497F65CA.9060308@bsdforen.de>
References:  <20090127190217.de1802b5.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <497F5F68.3090308@bsdforen.de> <1233084594.1981.24.camel@wombat.2hip.net> <497F65CA.9060308@bsdforen.de>

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On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:51 +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> Robert Noland wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:24 +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> >> Oliver Lehmann wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I've used to start my login manager with /etc/ttys for years now (Aft=
er I
> >>> considered myself became to lazy to type startx).
> >>>
> >>> After yesterdays xorg upgrade I've noticed, that the login manager wh=
ich
> >>> comes up right after going to multiuser has no working mouse or keybo=
ard
> >>> support. This is probably because the login manager gets started by
> >>> /sbin/init which uses getttyent which parses /etc/ttys. This all happ=
ens
> >>> before hald is being started which is the problem here.
> >> /etc/ttys is the very last thing in the boot process.
> >>
> >>> So the solution seems to be to drop/remove login manager startups
> >>> from /etc/ttys and move over to rc.d startup.
> >> It's much more likely that hald isn't working properly. Even if hald
> >> started late, as soon as it started, your mouse and keyboard would
> >> start working as soon as hald detects them (that's the whole point
> >> of using hald, runtime detection).
> >=20
> > I think the root of the issue here is that X isn't able to establish a
> > connection to hald at startup and does not retry. ...
>=20
> This implies to me that hald forks before it is connectable.
> This sounds rather annoying.

I'm just kinda shooting from the hip here, but I think it is that hald
registers with dbus. Once xorg has been able to figure out how to talk
to hald via dbus it is fine...=20

robert.

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