From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 16:24:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A656616A41F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:24:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2A8343D5C for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:24:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 40040 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Dec 2005 16:24:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xQSvsn+9tIA8uDGJYSXEsGOfS7d4YFw5MyA10kDQsJc9vMJMPN7vouQ/FAdGB3e6PhneTC+d3RVI2b5168c3CFUyESf2nAS3aUMhjxOF+hIEc5kLqHJUgaFfNwtmnMnbBzicNxVjigeV7dQejpmrBwy937bDlx2rl5tmrljMlk8= ; Message-ID: <20051226162456.40038.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:24:56 PST Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:24:56 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20051225221653.GA28062@lothlorien.nagual.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BSD Question's. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:24:57 -0000 --- dick hoogendijk wrote: > On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: > > > There is also the problem that some sites are > designed to work with > > Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with > firefox but that doesn't > > always work even with firefox on XP. > > NO site should be designed to work with > IExplorer. I know it's done, but > it should not! Why do we have W3C? If we could > all just do things "by > the book" the internet would be a much nicer > place to visit. > > People who design for IExplorer are bad! They > have microsoft in mind and > _not_ the visitors. I hate it when choice gets > violated! It should be > called a crime against freedom. No, you're wrong here. You're letting your religious philosophy cloud your business sense. You develop to service the highest percentage of your expected viewer base. The truth is that the vast majority of visitors to most web sites are going to be using IE. While using unnecessary features as a primary component of your site that ONLY work with IE is foolish, you can't compromise your design just so that it will work with the 3% of religious fanatics that refuse to install IE on thier machines. Business is about numbers, and the numbers say that your site HAS to work with IE, and its nice if it works with others. I generally test with IE, Firefox and Netscape and I don't care much about much else. I have a friend in the travel biz who gets an unusual amount of traffic from AOL, because most of his customers are not computer people. His site needs to be well tested on AOL, where I couldn't really give a rat's behind if my commercial site works with AOL or not. You have to make sure your site works with the greatest majority of browsers available that will be accessing any given site. Its unfortunate that MS does what they want rather than following the standards, but in reality the standards should follow MS, because its really the only way to make everything work. Much of Microsoft's "extra" stuff is pretty useful and arguably better; its time the unix geeks get over it and stop whining about the big bad bully for the good of the big picture. MS isn't going away anytime soon. The truth is that anything MS does is a de-facto standard, whether you like it or not. DT __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com