From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jul 15 23:20:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A456B99BB1 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x230.google.com (mail-it0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F25B81394 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x230.google.com with SMTP id h190so31579116ith.1 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:20:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=2kzyNrz889MZVqGLycd9yreiSm9BtfEEb9fK9J+VTrE=; b=PuCBk3Ii9bsgSVmdkHxk9dRY8xRLebg7PX1ZsG6lKn3/ZkG+dK3EQslD/Q3LxbPxD1 sEZ9ExJluo/0Eah/EqUp4O/JJQYdFkWsUfLDlp2aVGuVgA7sxds7XYsISocJY806Eo3k m7IKgpNVcwn9LeL552n7aJ/WOxkdg7Fb2UiFx5aSILzlBOjyOwU2vs0SOCkNT8NmUHvY ZjoqctpdEh2eIuaP1CaTJfPryfc2rf/9DqoQ2fg0s+SzqHTpkeT5Zg6QLaM5CjsYQOcz RrWc4sVRdLX+tEbXL1qblsQx4VseQ58rpXcSkv/x6QjykkZLyqXTf4rjpj7x0lDx7Bdo cW6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2kzyNrz889MZVqGLycd9yreiSm9BtfEEb9fK9J+VTrE=; b=Af7q8VNMqscPLOSAJFD8+p4CzPb3qmEHxua+GztQvZ44dQIsIOTZy3BqY62Eo1sV59 f3gmIifBz4y+Er60cSaf7ReHK6wlVnt5ZWyF90RzFK8nd/1JVJ2MOomB24IIU+T6wAIx wueLz4vORjwctyy5dE6K4WaAoPNYGNCXMAegt269Y7V+wuIjrGglMKAnNzVCPrmWWXqh NYF09VUiv9Q1lUKgFiBBk/sUNpY6YFvWZMxryFa6rX6o9SHckwNwvqq2HYkDOH5jDhM3 aKuEamhuCDPKjJPWMUZ28EL9UamjNJlbacCtVA0lM/DC+ivt+mHI5S1u4pMjkUdYF4CQ Q3/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK67VN8xUGd9jTrKlkLzm0PxwZmMIXv3Gn2p+vn3KlkJYyl7WTVlrNVH9vuqN1CNwfZxJ4k/7QXn7CE/A== X-Received: by 10.36.64.3 with SMTP id n3mr34652588ita.53.1468624834294; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:20:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.78.213 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:20:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <516799068.3859323.1468609314427.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <93bd3635-7be0-0fad-35e2-2a202b990a90@denninger.net> <516799068.3859323.1468609314427.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:20:33 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: reRBJnyp-HIl91xd1IM_r-w1WcE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem with FreeBSD-11.0-Beta1 To: Filippo Moretti Cc: Karl Denninger , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:20:35 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-stable < freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: > The system was installed as 11_CURRENT and I did not have any issue until > ALPHA-4.I did install everything from portsand I did install all of the > /etc during mergemaster and mergemaster -p.I do have a another disk with > 10.3-STABLE but I never tried to run applications from current in stable or > the other way.Filippops I did delete an old library I rebuilt windowmaker > and I have no complaint about it > > And, how did you go from ALPHA-4 to BETA-1? If you updated sources and rebuilt world and kernel, it should have been fine. If you tried freebsd-update, that might explain it as that method is documented as broken in BETA-1. I am uncertain what might happen if you tried this. I'd expect that the BETA-1 update files would have been removed. Somehow your password file seems to have lost all of the users since the move from ALPHA-4. I suspect /etc/group might have done the same, but I am not sure. You might merge all users from the 10.3 system using vipw(8) and do the same with your preferred to /etc/group. I have no idea what other things might be broken, though, nor how it happened (assuming you did not use freebsd-update). -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 On Friday, July 15, 2016 6:31 PM, Karl Denninger > wrote: > > > On 7/15/2016 11:17, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > 11.0 has not been released. You are much more likely to get a useful > > response from current@. > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-stable < > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > >> I have the following problem when I start the system: > > > > > >> Unknown user name "avahi" in message bus > >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkitd" in > message > >> bus configuration file > >> Unknown user name "polkitd" in message bus > >> configuration fileUnknown user name "colord" in > message > >> bus configuration file > >> Unknown user name "pulse" in message bus > >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkit" in > >> message bus configuration file > > Unknown user name "haldaemon" in message bus configuration > file > > > > Failed to start message bus: > > > > Could not get VID and GID for username "messagebus" > > > > /etc/rc:Warning:failed to start dbus > > > > On the same computer I have a disk with 10.3_STABLE with the same > >> configuration files and everything is working properly.When in X I > launch > >> firefox I get the following errorLibGL error: > > failed to open drm device:Permission denied > > > > LibGL error :failed to load driver: r 300 > > > > This is very likely due to failure to start dbus > > > > sincerely > > > > Filippo > > > > > > Note: I have tried to recover the mail format above. Whatever mail tool > you > > used totally garbled things by removing line breaks. > > > > First, how did 11.0Beta-1 get installed? How sis your ports (X11, dbus, > > pulseaudio, etc.) get installed? When moving from one major release to > > another (10 to 11), you need to reinstall all ports/packages. The > > installation process is what creates these"users". > > > > It looks like you are just trying to run the things in /usr/local from > your > > 10.3 system. This simply will not work. > > -- > > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > > Actually it SHOULD work unless you deleted the old libraries (in which > case it definitely won't!); the dynamic loader is smart enough to do the > right thing and load the correct (older) version of the shared libraries > required. > > If this has been broken in recent releases IMHO that's not so good. > There *are* instances where an older binary is all there is for a given > application (e.g. from a vendor!) and thus backward compatibility when > you roll forward the operating system is something that a lot of people > (myself included) have both used and relied on for a very long time. > > Yes, I understand that you can't *count* on that working, particularly > if the app in question makes explicit reference to things in the kernel > environment. But absent that they certainly should run. > > One instance where they didn't was with the armv6/armv6hf case where the > floating point format changed, but that happened in the -CURRENT > environment where ABI breakage is a known (and thus accepted) risk of > running -CURRENT. (That particular one manifested in some nasty ways > too in that going the "wrong way" would result in a binary that > executed, did not produce any exceptions or traps, but produced > incorrect floating-point results! I have code "in the wild" that checks > for this specific circumstance on startup "just in case"....) > > Now if you do perform a merge and only accept part of it you can get in > a lot of trouble with user and group IDs and similar, which is what > appears to have happened here. It's pretty easy to get bit by that if > you have local changes in your passwd and group files (and most people > do), "leave them for later" and then don't go back and merge the new > entries by hand. That sounds like what's occurred here; check in > /var/tmp, assuming you told mergemaster to keep it when done. > > Since the svn repo for stable/11 is now there and when checked out > builds BETA1 this IMHO appears to be the right place to discuss it. > > -- > Karl Denninger > karl@denninger.net > /The Market Ticker/ > /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"