From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:58:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BDE106568F for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f226.google.com (mail-bw0-f226.google.com [209.85.218.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3611D8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz26 with SMTP id 26so4168884bwz.36 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:58:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j2vaA2I7jVXFW/FurywjPZ3uQb/PAl1HkITeG1sJEjo=; b=O1kFgo2m1GYm4JcYgl/a5FqS3qKEz2bkIDnCWY6VThJVqQU/2zqeY3VjLT/mDB3sCQ 6BePDaHjbG+67cTO1ImwHAYvdOsSwTYIAsW7w/XbIJmqZtdeZptWsoJZ1sqUvhnWd5Lu 3NS7nNthLfISG8HouQbNsy8ZTfFsWa1LjQmik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WbLXkyOX+ZgI69RW754amIlmGoASci9AzyT8NzNHLdLyNU8BUXSdNwFdebhZsr0K1T +XaTreuS/3ZGfH06yYuUqLalp0SJfLKGg4az6S1GXw6FKo73XO0WvJ8p/h5I06DME6uk mrNRVD2LmYle6KjccWwNOfXyvuL2IeIn22ec8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.77 with SMTP id b13mr7198hbh.158.1254932735372; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:25:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:25:35 -0300 Message-ID: From: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" To: Renato Botelho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:01:33 +0000 Cc: Albert Shih , ports@freebsd.org, Dmitry Marakasov , Mark Linimon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:58:28 -0000 2009/10/6 Renato Botelho : > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Dmitry Marakasov wrot= e: >> * Mark Linimon (linimon@lonesome.com) wrote: >> >>> The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were >>> not in compliance with the 28-day clause. =A0A long, acrimonious disucs= sion >>> ensued. =A0In that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to mee= t >>> that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remov= e >>> any further legal threat?" and he said yes ... >>> >>> for now. >>> >>> But that he reserved the right to change his mind later. >>> >>> *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in >>> adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or >>> "renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any >>> lawsuit. >>> >>> Legally indefensible? =A0Of course. =A0Would that prevent a lawsuit bei= ng >>> filed? =A0No. =A0Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >> >> Well, if you insist I of course won't commit it. But the whole thing >> disappoints me greately, cause I was pretty sure at least FreeBSD >> developers won't be affected by a mere FUD. Do you honestly think >> the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, say, me suing, well, >> us? =A0And that anything will change by us not providing a port we >> have absolutely totally utterly 100% right to provide? =A0That is >> just silly. >> >> The port from now on is available here (removed from people.freebsd.org)= : >> http://mirror.amdmi3.ru/ports/ion3-20090110.port.tar > > You can start a fork of it, change its name, its license, and keep it as > a separate project... people will use the same software with another > name. You can fork the code, rename it, whathever, but you can NOT change the license without explicit permission from the original copyright owner. That would be legally considered theft! > Everybody will be happy and we won't have a Tuomo's software inside > ports collection again. It would be Tuomo's software anyway, regardless what you renamed it to, and his ownership would still prevail. Feel free to dislike his behavior but keep compliant to his rights unless you are whiling to face a lawsuit. --=20 My preferred quotation of Robert Louis Stevenson is "You cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs". Not because I like the omelettes, but because I like the sound of eggs being broken.