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Date:      Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:04:26 -0600
From:      "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>
To:        Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>, Martin Aherron <martin@cybernetics.com>, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: what's wrong with this picture :-)
Message-ID:  <20010811140426.A83218@panzer.kdm.org>
In-Reply-To: <3B74F0FD.BD874B21@yahoo.com>; from kc5vdj@yahoo.com on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 03:46:53AM -0500
References:  <01Jul25.213803edt.119044@cyborg.cybernetics.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107251846520.37199-100000@beppo> <20010725200625.A44606@panzer.kdm.org> <3B747CD2.A7F44851@yahoo.com> <20010810194807.A74472@panzer.kdm.org> <3B74F0FD.BD874B21@yahoo.com>

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First off -- you're still sending messages with line lengths that are way
over 80 columns.

It looks like you're using Netscape, so:

Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Messages

Go to the "Message Wrapping" section, and set it up to wrap outgoing plain
text messages at 72 characters.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 03:46:53 -0500, Jim Bryant wrote:
> "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote:
> > You're getting the base transfer speed for the bus confused with the
> > actual negotiated transfer speed.  3.3MB/sec is async narrow SCSI, which
> > is the baseline transfer speed for most SCSI controllers.  The
> > negotiated transfer speed is printed out when the device probes, and
> > by camcontrol negotiate.
> 
> My bad...  oops!
> 
> > > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #18: Fri Aug 10 16:51:25 CDT 2001 [cvsupped about 4am CST today] Tyan S1696-DLUA Mobo / 512M / Two
> > > Pentium-II/333's
> > >
> > > See the full dmesg output in the -current thread I'm about to post concerning ACPI tables not being found, boot_verbose was set.
> > >
> > > The SCSI timeouts have been "normal" here for a couple/few years.  Everything comes up fine once it sorts itself out.
> > 
> > I don't know why you're getting timeouts, Justin will probably have to
> > comment when he gets back.
> > 
> 
> I hope he gets a chance to, everything does come up fine after the timeouts sort themselves out on ahc1, but it is still pretty much
> a pain in the butt having to wait for the boot.  Usually it takes a couple of minutes before it gets going after it hits the
> "waiting for scsi to settle" message..  I had bumped it up to 30 seconds from 15 seconds, but that didn't change a thing as far as
> the timeouts go.  as i recall, seven seconds was too soon, and caused other problems, which i why i normally run a 15 second wait. 
> Once it hits the "waiting..." though, and I haven't physically timed it, I'll guestimate about two minutes before I get to /etc/rc.
> 
> I don't know if it's just a quirk with my hardware or what...  It's been that way for a long time.  The 'cuda is the only thing on
> ahc1, and ahc0 consists of an internal cd-rom, and an external dds-2 [via a mobo to back-panel-socket-insert-thingie that goes like
> a card bracket].  Both the cd-rom and tape drive are terminated, and the external cable is only a three footer.
> 
> The SCSI BIOS is set for automatic termination.
> 
> As far as the "error 6" on cd0 on ahc0, i only grepped on cd0, so i could have missed some messages.


Please go ahead and send the full dmesg output from your system.  Justin
will probably need all of that information in order to diagnose your
problem.

Ken
-- 
Kenneth Merry
ken@kdm.org

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