From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 3 16:57:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BE637B41C; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g340v9sV490904; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:57:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020403224722.R59420-100000@patrocles.silby.com> References: <20020403224722.R59420-100000@patrocles.silby.com> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:57:08 -0500 To: Mike Silbersack , "Jacques A. Vidrine" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Heads up, a bit: ephemeral port range changes Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:53 PM -0600 4/3/02, Mike Silbersack wrote: >On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:31:20PM -0600, Mike Silbersack wrote: >> > Far more sweeping changes have been made to -stable in the past. >> > > Of course. But this particular change is gratuitous. Do not merge > > it to -STABLE, please. Instead, wait for 4.6. What's the hurry? > > -- > > Jacques A. Vidrine http://www.nectar.cc/ > >As we have a RELENG_4_5 branch, I see no reason that I should >hold off on the change. It's mostly unimportant, not gratuitous. I agree that if this change is going to go into stable at all, then now is probably as good a time as any. What I don't see is why this must be made to -stable at all. What would be the consequences if we simply left RELENG_4 with the same port-range that it's always had? Note that this is not a complaint on my part, it is only a request for more information. In a different message, Mike Silbersack wrote: >Far more sweeping changes have been made to -stable in the past. >If someone does experience failing outbound connections, I'm >sure they can re-read UPDATING, ask on a mailing list, or just >go back to their previous kernel until they figure it out. Chances are pretty good that they would not notice any such problems until after they have done the "installworld" step, and thus it is not necessarily a simple matter to "just go back" to their previous kernel. We have made far more sweeping changes in the past. We had reasons for doing those changes when we did them. I would feel a little better about making this change to -stable if we knew what important (time-critical) issue that it was fixing. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message