From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 27 21:37:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A51B106564A; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365E48FC16; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so3442024qyk.13 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:37:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i664fJiE0QHMmnv2XOBc1256FCj1IKFOaW2b+P6FMUM=; b=nIFX+3VTzV6lGg4kJ8zHVNIb0/YkwarO+t6Ou9K7W2EWcYz8kXqFXFRcAu12i9GCrI dkQOw5k90vbMlaFICR83U2YkNqvmZGR1qYB79oA+k8hIzjb0cAb7RVj9WRELIzY7tN3h QIH/wDKWFPkGz7irrR4dPlrsdRUf1WDvuMZGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.61.66 with SMTP id s2mr3701711qch.55.1314481054394; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.19.131 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:37:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110827212118.GF21676@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201108262122.p7QLMZXW071323@svn.freebsd.org> <4E583B92.3060100@FreeBSD.org> <20110827081103.GB21676@zxy.spb.ru> <86obzbi75n.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> <20110827105342.GC21676@zxy.spb.ru> <4E58D8E8.3090603@FreeBSD.org> <20110827124432.GD21676@zxy.spb.ru> <4E595447.8000104@FreeBSD.org> <20110827210448.GE21676@zxy.spb.ru> <20110827212118.GF21676@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:37:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Doug Barton , John Baldwin , Eric Masson , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r225201 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:37:36 -0000 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 02:09:36PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> >> > What drivers in GENERIC don't need to boot from disk or network? >> >> > sound only? >> >> >> >> man rc.conf, search for kld_list. >> > >> > Sorry for bad english. >> > What drivers (from current GENERIC) don't need for network or disk >> > boot and can be moved to kld_list? >> > >> > I see only sound and agp. >> >> =A0 =A0 The answer varies based on your deployment mechanism and >> requirements. For example: some modules like the kqemu, nvidia, >> vboxdrv, etc, etc don't need to be loaded until later on in the boot >> process. That being said, if I'm netbooting I don't need to load >> storage drivers and the like until later on (unless I want to do some >> sort of mountroot manipulation, need to have a working kernel dumpable >> device at boot, etc). >> -Garrett > > No-no-no. > GENERIC placed on instalation CD/DVD and updated by freebsd-update. > So GENERIC (and modules loaded in /boot/loader.conf from instalation > image and in default install) must be enought to install in widest > environment. This method is for customizers more than generalists today. but should potentially be extended to generalists tomorrow (this method is similar to what I would refer to as "pimp my PC"). > If drivers moved from GENERIC to /boot/loader.conf it allow preserve > wide range of installation environment and give light way to reduce > count of loaded devices (by edit /boot/loader.conf). /boot/loader.conf is empty by default. GENERIC for the most part is a complete, monolithic kernel. I'm not sure what the issue is here, because this is for more advanced usage (i.e. you do linux_load=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf, etc). Thanks, -Garrett