From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Apr 30 19:24:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73924FB4422 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE71E6FCE5 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id m70so14574021wma.2 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:24:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chen-org-nz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=iAxfCszUsA6uMQjBQm9t3xVbjVW8B06aMo7WqiddtgQ=; b=lq83NcRSbQV9T82SMyGiiFnNxd+COk9zA8SZAiyHcx9FDySi3QjOyYUNeCPxWGreia JJURoqy7FcquadlwcQS35kgnfY+K/nd4kDGcxiWckIakPN2qIFyV9Z8XRItixi+sYzIq OX5pDyPRHcHSp9Ml3QX2Tj1Le91a95gcl8Rl/xUVW77hb6IEiAceV/lX1zqqEdDoUvnR g6QbtPoWrcLwKNWdrvJAFQNcXkjFZQ+sSrQkazHKi82HKfpUtlp7mApYgMBICU4YNnlB nJYXjfll9f/NghDxzzgE/vpiwHc+2dKYWFIeOaPU3CLcpHbFiOWXvl/inS89uW59AUsM 7h7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iAxfCszUsA6uMQjBQm9t3xVbjVW8B06aMo7WqiddtgQ=; b=ddCK5LV1DRvOHKfKHHrQvxBe/yPqYfGtI2S06nXwr6b16LM78M+UfMXE8OrveEEkU5 fJOCWeaavQ8HVo+kAiTmZjxAZ2Y+VaDwdbNccGKTrfVIsXqVGDWo/zm39HCW8SuOdwqq +WzDxWGjUzUDYt4DR8oBPXlNn1cWpsIHKo60t/HSLlFd3j0qTjl6jcICEBOUWMLZun3B igxmxfz+GUD7bKKzFoGlVLY2ee17pLIyLbo14SvY9T5sHnSDjzzR2lkJRU+5bnxBHfiv Hl9fjegwGMB/UeUVH4n4xQvR79BHUSTNw9GJTA/nwbdDKAdra7PSqin6PeVHWrfqHS8A YW7g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBloyqaUMOvRm5Dpd7aRzzvF5tpqbsk/yo/xK7V57fnpx2zPYMp R44Gyou8m7xxMoODp46lkAliVY+SE5tjIuOdAR5vWw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrREVTufCqpTNDKE8h8yLqIVY4K5UAVj4MPh662fPg78ojZcMThASTm7e5uG6XX3G2wKERq6RLz/JmClOxuSWE= X-Received: by 2002:a50:f4b5:: with SMTP id s50-v6mr17893155edm.262.1525116269757; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:24:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.216.9 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [203.99.129.1] In-Reply-To: <5ae6fd65.1c69fb81.a1193.4d74SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <20180429214807.GA85409@elch.exwg.net> <5ae6fd65.1c69fb81.a1193.4d74SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> From: Jonathan Chen Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 07:24:29 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmaster To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 19:24:32 -0000 On 30 April 2018 at 22:33, Thomas Mueller wrote: [...] > I see hardly any mention of synth on the freebsd-ports list. Have synth users become disenchanted? There are a growing number of synth users. They just don't appear on the list 'cause the software just works. > One downside is that synth fails to install build dependencies, so I have to pkg install all of these separately, very annoying. Why should build dependencies be installed? Their only purpose is for building the port. > I was bitten just yesterday trying to build cross-compiling tools for Haiku when make info was missing because texinfo was built but not installed. > > But I was able to recover with pkg install after checking my repository. > > With portmaster, I need to specify ports by category/portname rather than just portname, for example > portmaster www/seamonkey > > On my other computer, with MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard, synth just fumbles and crashes. I would suspect you have hardware issues instead. synth builds tend to strain the machine - it's a good test of machine hardiness. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen