From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 22:31:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639C3106564A for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC27E8FC0A for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id p1CMAh0N072371 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:10:56 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7754120C98 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:10:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 2AB9640C4; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:10:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:10:46 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110212221046.GA33426@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4D570563.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4D570563.002/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:31:09 -0000 Michal Varga wrote: > On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 23:33 +0330, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > > Does anyone think that having an optional APT system somewhere like in > > the Ports Collection or ... > > You already know where the "..." is, it's called "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD". > > I have been told that both its users are perfectly happy with apt-system > and everything else that accompanies it and then for the rest, there's > this other thing called "FreeBSD". This other thing that you mention has two components, the kernel and basic utilities, managed by very competent people, and the ports which covers more than 20 000 various software and gives flesh to the system. One may very well be reasonably happy with the first component (hardware support is not always first class, notably for laptops) and be disappointed by the second component. It may be that Debian/kFreeBSD will succeed in associating a good kernel to a good userland, depending on the care offered by the Debian people to this project. I don't think that grafting apt on the ports system would work as well as in Debian. -- Michel TALON