From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 3 00:34:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03067 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com [134.32.44.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03062 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smoergrd@geos01.oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com) Received: from sunw132.geco-prakla.slb.com (sunw132 [134.32.45.120]) by oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA04014 ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:32:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by sunw132.geco-prakla.slb.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA08771; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:32:52 +0200 To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: Greg Lehey , David Caldwell , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Beginning user's OS (was: Here is a really odd question!!!) References: <19980703010915.6825.qmail@hotmail.com> <19980703124514.H358@freebie.lemis.com> <19980703022310.B4457@zappo> Organization: Schlumberger Geco-Prakla X-Disclaimer: I speak only for myself. From: smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com (Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav) Date: 03 Jul 1998 09:32:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: Tim Vanderhoek's message of Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:23:10 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim Vanderhoek writes: > On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 12:45:14PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > My theory is that UNIX and operating systems that work like it will > > > never die and they are fairly complex to understand,they require a fair > > > amount of reading to be done before trying to make additions or changes > > > and the rewards for working at it can be immense. > I think you do discount some of the things that can be learned from > DOS batch file programming (laugh if you will...I learned some pretty > damn important stuff there) and QBasic (the advantage here is that the > two may have friends also programming in QBasic -> larger support > group) too quickly. That said, the limit to what UNIX can teach you > is much much farther away than the limit to what DOS can teach you. I don't see a problem here. I have a friend at University (a PhD student - incidentally, he's the author of /usr/ports/lang/cim) who is teaching his son to program Tcl on Linux¹. The kid's got his own serial terminal hooked up to his father's 486... He's doing great so far. Then again, the kid's a little out of the ordinary: he's hooked on math/logic games such as Rubik's cube and the likes (though I think that hobby comes from his father) DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com ¹ Don't worry, his next computer will run FreeBSD - I've seen to that To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message