From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Oct 14 11:25:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F875C111C9 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6A77A20 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bv0by-000Kuk-Kj; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:25:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:25:14 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Jan Bramkamp Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg Message-ID: <20161014112514.GH51420@home.opsec.eu> References: <638fe078-80db-2492-90be-f1280eb8d445@freebsd.org> <20161013183338.42f6777d@gumby.homeunix.com> <9699a36d-fd4d-dfaf-eccf-6c744ea7e5fd@freebsd.org> <6fb5beb3-5332-c795-f8b0-acfd2b5b95b9@rlwinm.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6fb5beb3-5332-c795-f8b0-acfd2b5b95b9@rlwinm.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:25:14 -0000 Hi! > > This is an appliance class machine. It has 2G of storage and that has > > to include 2 copies for the OS so we can ping-pong for upgrades. > > I can get > 2GB CPU cache per system (spread over 8+ sockets) these > days. Is it really reasonable to expect port maintainers to take up the > work and classify their maintained ports for you to save you an > additional 2GB of cheap flash storage? Letting the appliance-market slip away to other platforms should be avoided. > At a certain scale those > trade-offs might make sense for you, but I suspect most FreeBSD port > maintainers and FreeBSD users don't mind a few 100 kB of documentation > and headers on their systems. Aren't there easier solutions which don't > require a lot of manual work? Using the pkg-plist of packages by removing those files not in bin/ or lib/ might solve approx. 80% of the problem. Someone's willing to test this 8-} ? -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 4 years to go !