From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 16:53:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D715CD6627 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mouf.net (mouf.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:4400:216:3eff:fe69:33b3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mouf.net", Issuer "mouf.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFF766DA for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.0.1.70] (cpe-071-065-239-148.nc.res.rr.com [71.65.239.148] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mouf.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v19GrPsH001499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:53:30 GMT (envelope-from swills@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> From: Steve Wills Message-ID: <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:53:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mouf.net [199.48.129.64]); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:53:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mouf.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mouf.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 16:53:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="AIjB11O9sFTMjAfbJe37EBH1PmEmRcaFU"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9155c628-de63-63ba-1cf0-5c33cea82725@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <73E2F71C-0C7E-49A3-8D98-3AECA8F40F99@lastsummer.de> <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <3FB972B7-F9B7-4EAE-9C06-9DCECD5F6531@lastsummer.de> --AIjB11O9sFTMjAfbJe37EBH1PmEmRcaFU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/09/2017 11:24, Franco Fichtner wrote: >=20 >> On 9 Feb 2017, at 5:21 PM, Steve Wills wrote: >> >> We provide backwards compatibility, not forwards compatibility. >=20 > But don't you see that users won't know this? Users who don't know their software is no longer supported and refuse to update can't be helped, IMHO. > This is a good theory, yet it is difficult in practice because it is > not being enforced. What would enforcement look like? Something like "Sorry, you can't pkg update because this system isn't supported any more."? But how would that be possible without also breaking things for those who build/ship their own OS and packages? Steve --AIjB11O9sFTMjAfbJe37EBH1PmEmRcaFU-- --ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlicnoVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboYLFCACAKpegsX3DuLB0XFmI06WSJpF9ZA9c Xr/jhOV2s9vs98z1qQGoFDwzLdmNSV3wKuqgnpJUN0ppPLdUz8hchY/x/cU9bZMf bGdh5Qh/4MugmIYpnj+QDr+6UTjybhrakS2P0KV9nDz/vad/kmeiHetgmQ0nkABe +Kxa4swGE0wIYVCnvLEVfNYCW/IqdnQJiC/Z0tKgXOoBIpppbZb/44rEAM6pidjF Xt/VeiE5QCQsYznEEyCbjkAHzigm9JPFqDrVLGujE8dm4vvq+XY8BStxbA7xxww6 tMjfzMo9VkWVGelOOlE5SkhoBQ6f+6W5vutQgiZ88uRswP/0axH/nN0f =rqIP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ltH0RPsWa9Md4I4FxtTvAlksefumonpEx--